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Prob not, unless there is a photo showing paint scheme and tail number...........rolleyes.gif

Funny you should mention that....

http://www.ndguard.ngb.army.mil/news/guardian/Archived%20Guardian%20Publications/JetLetter-May-June2007.pdf (The pictures are on page 8-9)

Looks like they may have commemorated that airplane, as the one in the pictures is painted ADC gray consistent with 119th Happy Hooligan Phantoms of that era with the name of the Lt. that flew the mission on the canopy.

The tail number is a bit of an enigma though, because according to Phantomshrine.co.uk, it doesn't exsist, and Joe Baugher's database has that tail number belonging to a Shrike missile :dontknow:/>

-James

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So, here's a little fun, what's wrong with this picture?

For a Cam Rahn Bay airplane of the 557th around the 1969 time frame: Wrong radome, wrong canopy markings, wrong tail markings, wrong nose markings, wrong intake shoulder markings, wrong paint on splitter, wrong nose gear markings, wrong pylon camo, wrong tank markings, wrong ejection triangles, missing markings on nose cone, no yellow Rescue arrow, misplaced Armament Box, no tank markings, generally wrong camo demarcation, etc. Also, the C models didn't have slime lights at that time and didn't carry launch rails on the inboard pylons (except on a special Presidential Escort mission).

Having said all that, here's a C model at Cam Rahn in 1966 ....

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Still, that Armament Center airframe looks better than it used to.

Gene K

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Oh noeeeeesss wrong scheme on wrong variant!

Anyway back to the heart transport story. Was that F-4 given permission for supersonic flight for that journey or no? Are they allowed to do Supersonic with only the pilot? Since it was such a time rush I'm just curious as to how it got there. Also why no backseater to hold the cooler? I doubt it was a very large cooler.

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Anyway back to the heart transport story. Was that F-4 given permission for supersonic flight for that journey or no? Are they allowed to do Supersonic with only the pilot? Since it was such a time rush I'm just curious as to how it got there. Also why no backseater to hold the cooler? I doubt it was a very large cooler.

I couldn't find anything in my research to indicate whether that flight went supersonic or not. However, I did some map mathematics with some help from Google Earth and came up with this:

Distance from Fargo, ND to Stanford, CA: 1,255 nautical miles (straight line distance from Hector Int'l in Fargo to Moffett Field in CA)

According to Aerofax #4, the ferry range of an F-4D (I don't have the one for the C model) is 1,602 nautical miles.

In the story it was stated that seven hours had elapsed from the moment the heart was harvested to the moment it arrived at the hospital.

I dunno how long organ harvesting takes, but with time factors of getting it prepared for travel, getting it to the airport, and then getting it from the airport to the hospital on the other end....:dontknow:/>/>

Given the extremely sensitive nature of the flight, and the lack of a GIB, and the time involved between harvest and transplant, I would hazard a guess that supersonic flight did not take place that night.

It would have been a lot cooler if it had...:rolleyes:/>/>

Speaking of coolers, I once shared a C-130 ride with a human kidney (really long story and not very glamorous), and the 'cooler' that was used was a steel box that was a lot bigger than I thought necessary for what was inside. Packed with ice and insulating material, I would imagine the same type of box was used for the heart on this flight. If the GIB were to hold something like that on his lap, it would have definitely interfered with the rear cockpit flight controls.

-James

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Since this is my first phantom builds, I have run into an issue with the painting. Do you guys paint with Gloss White or a Matt or Flat. I have used Tamiya X-2 and then dullcoat and it looked ok, then I tried a flat white from MM and it just doesnt look right.

Thanks!!

-Jim

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Did we get an answer on this one yet? I wish I could see more but I say it is either a F-4D without the IR on the chin or it is and F-4S.

Its 100% an Air force bird. Notice the landing gear door lights. AF style Pylons. So its either a C or a D.

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Did we get an answer on this one yet? I wish I could see more but I say it is either a F-4D without the IR on the chin or it is and F-4S.

I think it has been determined to be an early USAF "C" model.

V/r

Ron

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To those of you who have a few Hasegawa 72nd scale F-4s under your belt, would you recommend an assembly sequence that results in the fewest gaps to fill and steps to sand?

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I tended to build mine as per the instructions. With practice those intakes get a little easier. I found doing the intakes before the wings often ended up with MORE sanding and re-scribing as I tried to jam the assemblies together.

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... an assembly sequence that results in the fewest gaps to fill and steps to sand?

Assemble each fuselage side as one unit, joining the front to rear (and in the case of the F-4E, the nose piece). Then attach the intakes to each side - you will have to sand the intake shoulder area, the left side more than the right. Finish each side to the degree desired before joining the sides.

Assemble the wing tops to the bottom, and after finished, add to the joined fuselage pieces.

I started a fairly comprehensive (though incomplete) pdf on building the Hasegawa 1/72 Phantom - for example how to add a piece of tape to the inside top of the vertical stab to avoid having a step after adding the fin top, and adding tape to the inside trailing edge of the wings to avoid the ugly steps in the aileron and flap area. Drop me a PM if interested.

Gene K

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