mooncat Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Do you never noticed drooping nose is so intense? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KAGNEW Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 for mor pictures of new Mig 25 please look at www.KittyHawkmodel.com thanx Glen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flanker27 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Interesting, appears a Jaguar two seater is in the work as well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
punder Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 They seem to be reading my mind. F-94C, 2-seat Jag, and MiG-25R are on my top 10 list. KH guys, you are feeling very sleeeeepy... you are relaaaaaaxed... your next project is the Sukhoi Su-15 Flagonnnnnnn... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 But the exhausts and tail cone are wrong for the type... TrumpyBoss syndrome? There is a lot of cross kitting in this one kit. A bit of everything and from every MiG-25 version. It is easier to produce a kit this way for sure but . . . Yes, the canopy has been changed but what about a lot of other things pointed out earlier???? Best regards Gabor P.s. good to see ARC back on line and to be back from the great E Day show in Prague. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ace Combat Zero Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 The MIG-25 was the predecessor to the MIG-31. It was a very high speed interceptor, and often scrambled on SR-71 recon planes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Review here MiG-25 review Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Actually that's not a review, it'a a description of what you get in the box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solher1 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) I am probably wrong, but it seems to me that the windscreen is still flat on the top or is it the angle of the picture? I hope I am wrong. Other than that I am really looking forward for the Foxbat. Juan Edited October 12, 2013 by solher1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Did you look at the Britmodeler in-box review? The canopy is completely different from the original one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 This kit looks fantastic, they even included the serial numbers stenciled on the AAM's (plus "bonus decals" for Belinkov's Red 31). It appears that the canopy issue has been corrected as well. The cockpit / seat look pretty basic but I'm sure the aftermarket crowd will be stepping up. Now I just have to wait for the recon version to be released. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Unfortunately the style of the numbers is incorrect for Belenko's airplane, and Belenko was flying a MiG-25P, not a PD/PDS. The reason the PD/PDS existed was *because* Belenko defected in a P. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ijozic Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Unfortunately the style of the numbers is incorrect for Belenko's airplane, and Belenko was flying a MiG-25P, not a PD/PDS. The reason the PD/PDS existed was *because* Belenko defected in a P. OK, but what other notable external P/PD differences are there (apart from the IRST opening which the instructions show that it should be covered for the P variant)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floggerman Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 OK, but what other notable external P/PD differences are there (apart from the IRST opening which the instructions show that it should be covered for the P variant)? Due to the different radar the nose panels are complete different as well as some other smaller modifications. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 OK, but what other notable external P/PD differences are there (apart from the IRST opening which the instructions show that it should be covered for the P variant)? The complete nose section is different: - nose cone - pitot tube - panelling on the nose - search light on the right side - Search head under the nose - the cockpit is different - nose undercarriage doors The wing tip counter balance/EW pods are different EW antennas on the intake and fins Brake parachute housing The PD was able to carry the big centre line fuel tank Just to mention a few. From the available photos of the kit it is a mix of everything: the PD/PDS and the bomber/recconaissance versions. A bit from every version. We will have to see what is included in any particular box but from available information it is clear that one will have to do some surgery on common parts to make them suitable for the given version. It is interesting that the big reinforcement plate (on the side of the undercarriage bay sidewall, from the outside) was left on the kit, it was there only on a handful of test aircraft. There are tons of information and photos on it The airbrake on top of the fuselage never had a bay of its own (as fantasized by KH). It simply overlays the fuselage surface. This was pointed out when the first information came out on the kit, nothing was changed: There are tons of information and photos on it The radar given in the kit is one from the very first test aircraft. Service aircraft had a radar dish covered with a radar transparent cover, just like on MiG-29 or the Su-27 radar. There are tons of information and photos on it Just to mention a few . . . Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ijozic Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) The complete nose section is different: - nose cone - pitot tube - panelling on the nose - search light on the right side - Search head under the nose - the cockpit is different - nose undercarriage doors The wing tip counter balance/EW pods are different EW antennas on the intake and fins Brake parachute housing The PD was able to carry the big centre line fuel tank Just to mention a few. From the available photos of the kit it is a mix of everything: the PD/PDS and the bomber/recconaissance versions. A bit from every version. Wow, that's a pretty extensive list, thanks. I don't have any good MiG-25 books and the internet search came up short. But, I presume the PDS variants had less changes from the PD then? Which variant would then the kit be closest to or would require the least corrections in your opinion so far? Edited October 14, 2013 by ijozic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Wow, that's a pretty extensive list, thanks. I don't have any good MiG-25 books and the internet search came up short. But, I presume the PDS variants had less changes from the PD then? Which variant would then the kit be closest to or would require the least corrections in your opinion so far? The PD was a new built airframe to the upgraded standard, while the PDS was a conversion of the original MiG-25P with using "upgrade set's". Some of the MiG-25P airframe features remained with the PDS, like the parabrake housing (in few cases this was changed during overhaul) or the wing tip counter balance pods which are a good identifying feature of the PDS. As always there are a few exceptions but on most PDS the brake housing and the wingtip pod should be as for the P. As to the KH kit, I have no idea, havent seen it to date. The photos are a cross mix of different kits so it is not clear what you will get in the particular kits. From most of the photos so far it seems that the kit is a PD. Still dont show it with an open radome as the one in the kit is the radar of the original prototype aircraft. Lets waite and see the kit in flesh. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metroman Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Thank you KH - another winner, we Cold War fans are in golden days thanks to you guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pep Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 One just showed up on eBay from Hawaii KITTY HAWK 1/48 MIG 25 PD/PDS FOXBAT-E PLASTIC MODEL KIT BRAND NEW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seaknight Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 It's coming in store. Spruebrothers as it on stock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pep Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 already there =) just ordered mine! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian 1 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Was waiting until I saw the price before i pulled the trigger, but for $70 thats alot of issues that should have been fixed...Im going to wait for this one to hit the bargin bin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Instructions are up. To be honest, not all that impressed for $70, especially compared to the GWH MiG-29. I wasn't aware that the MiG-25 had hinged FOD covers in the intake like the MiG-29. Would they be down with the engines off? Looks like just a fudge to hide the lack of intake trunking. http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10240916 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mario krijan Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Instructions are up. To be honest, not all that impressed for $70, especially compared to the GWH MiG-29. Thats mine first thought :-( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I wasn't aware that the MiG-25 had hinged FOD covers in the intake like the MiG-29. Would they be down with the engines off? AFAIK the MiG-25 doesn't have built-in retractable anti-FOD devices like the MiG-29 and Su-27 have. What the MiG-25 has is moveable ramps to adapt the air flow to the aircraft speed. I believe that the ramps are up when the aircraft is on the ground. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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