Paddington Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Looking good !! Patrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.linus Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 Awesome work! Please keep the pictures coming! Thanks a lot! i'll do my best to post as many as i can. Hi, Very nice work! Hurry up!!... Winter is coming! :whistle:/>/> haha " you know nothing john snow" - i'm going as fast as i can :woot.gif:/> btw your the only person that has said anything about that on this post. Looking good !! Patrick Thanks patrick! hooray! my favorite part! I finally was able to start painting. I'm trying out a completely different approach to how i've always painted. If it goes wrong, oh well. i can always repaint. Normally i pre shade followed by paint, color modulations, clear, decals, panel lines w/ oil, clear, flat, and done. not this time. i will primarily post shading, filters, and oils to achieve the look i want. here we go, and wish me luck! first up-The jet was primed, followed by a base coat. Using 6000 micro mesh sanding pads to smooth out the finish. i'm working with section at a time. Starting on the underside of the jet in the middle of the fuselage, and working my way out. I used a lighter shade of gray and lightened different areas on the panels mostly focus the weathering around the landing bays where dirt and oil would gather. The color modulations may seem a little exaggerated. Its my experience with tamiya paints, that when sprayed as a matt finish, once the clear coat is added, a lot of the color variations are lost. So i'm over exaggerating everything in hopes that when the clear coat is added it will mellow everything down to just the right balance. we shall see using a mix of red brown, desert yellow, and buff, I lightly shaded along several panel lines in the center of the fuselage. by its self it looked kinda like rust- not so happy about that, but when i added oils to the panel lines and rivets it really came alive, giving more of a motor oil stain that is usually scene on the underside of these jets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janissary Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hi, I am following this build with great interest. It looks terrific! Since I'll be using alclad for the bare metal surfaces, I went ahead and sprayed a krylon lacquer base coat first. I polished it down to a smooth gloss finish as this gives me the best finish with alclad. May I ask if you decanted Krylon and airbrushed it (if so, did you thin it with lacquer thinner or something)? Also, what did you use to polish it? It looks very nice. Micromesh comes to mind, but you seem to have gotten to every nook and cranny, which I have found it difficult to do with micromesh. using a mix of red brown, desert yellow, and buff, I lightly shaded along several panel lines in the center of the fuselage. by its self it looked kinda like rust- not so happy about that, but when i added oils to the panel lines and rivets it really came alive, giving more of a motor oil stain that is usually scene on the underside of these jets. Wow. I like how the red brown, desert yellow, and buff mix looks along the panel lines. This is something I always wanted to achieve. It looks great. Please keep explaining the details of your painting, filter and washing techniques. There is a lot of interesting stuff here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Manuel J. Armas S. Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 WOW, amazing, don't forget the detail around the conformal fuel tanks... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.linus Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Hi, I am following this build with great interest. It looks terrific! May I ask if you decanted Krylon and airbrushed it (if so, did you thin it with lacquer thinner or something)? Also, what did you use to polish it? It looks very nice. Micromesh comes to mind, but you seem to have gotten to every nook and cranny, which I have found it difficult to do with micromesh. Wow. I like how the red brown, desert yellow, and buff mix looks along the panel lines. This is something I always wanted to achieve. It looks great. Please keep explaining the details of your painting, filter and washing techniques. There is a lot of interesting stuff here. hey man thanks a lot! i love your builds! i've been watching you since before i ever became a member. As far as the krylon, yes i do decant it and thin it with lacquer thinner. All the things i've read says you don't have to but thats a load of bunk. i 50/50 thin it and spray in very light coats. 1 minute in between coats until i get the coverage i need. i do use micro mesh for the most part but for all the nooks and crannies I use Novus plastic polish. there are three different abrasive levels and you can buff the crap out of stuff with it. i use an old cotton t-shirt with it and it helps to get in all the problem spots. hope this helps WOW, amazing, don't forget the detail around the conformal fuel tanks... :woot.gif:/> haha i won't i'm not there yet. Okay so some filters have been added. I used a variety of colors , burnt sienna, black, white, and blue. some other colors may be added at a later time. the filters were thinned 10/80% oil paint/thinner - very , very light coats. remove almost all paint from the brush before adding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.linus Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 here's some better photos hopefully its easier to see the subtle effects as opposed to the previous picture Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkW Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Did you do something with the flare dispensers? I thought they all were open, yet most of yours are closed. Not sure I'm a huge fan of the buff around the doors...at this stage it doesn't look right. Do you have further plans to tone it down? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coneheadff Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I LOVE IT!!!! Great job! Keep it up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.linus Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) Did you do something with the flare dispensers? I thought they all were open, yet most of yours are closed. Not sure I'm a huge fan of the buff around the doors...at this stage it doesn't look right. Do you have further plans to tone it down? [/ Yeah I chose that flare configuration based off some photos I saw where there would be just a select few ports open. I don't really know what the operational load out is with chaff and flare and I'm too far in to change it. Just liked the way t looked. As far as painting, I'm still at a basic stage, so everything should marry together as I add different filters of paint. Also I can't quite get the color balance correct on my camera. It keeps coming out more yellow than brownish. Edited November 23, 2013 by .linus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMan Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Fantastic work! What is your base color? Aren't most Mudhens typically a Gunship grey? Either way its a great looking plane!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.linus Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 Fantastic work! What is your base color? Aren't most Mudhens typically a Gunship grey? Either way its a great looking plane!!!!! Thanks so much JMan! The base color I used is tamiya ijn-gray xf-77 which was the closest I could find to gunship gray in the tamiya line. The model masters enamel I had came out too purple. The base CIA looks really light in its Matt state, but once you hit it with the gloss coat , it darkens right up. Now finally an update. My wife went on a major photography rampage with our son so I barely had anytime with the camera haha. So I apologize, most of the next few picks I'll ex posting will be from my iPhone. Here is some progress with the main gear. The kit parts are pretty basic. I scratch built a few extra details. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.linus Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 a few more updates on the paint. I started my post shading, and again the contrast of this will blend together once more filters are added. To get this effect, i used the base color plus a large array of different grays : some lighter and some darker. i also put together a little flight manual to go in there. while that's drying, i started work detailing the canopy wind screen. using a thin brass sheet and my riveting tool, I managed to get the basic shape of the interior. masked and ready for painting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.linus Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 oh one more thing i almost forgot! The feathers that surround rim of the burner cans have been completed and attached. Again i used thin brass sheet. I used my scriber & riveting tool to create the panels and rivets that i noticed in photos. I then took my hobby scissors and made small indentions at the end of the feathers. I found that if i cut too far down the line, i got a really unnatural overlap. i feel this better represents the effect in scale. i'll post pics later of the engines inserted so you can see the fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.linus Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 i hope i'm not going to overboard on the posts. i've just got a lot of content that i wanted to post. hope you are still enjoying the build. the painting process is almost complete. i'll post more of the full jet later. First, i've started the bare metal surfaces. I've noticed in photos that on a lot of LN jets the even though it shows signs of metal scorching, it is still fairly reflective. On 96-0201 this is also the case. i wanted to try and replicate this. What i did first was polish the **** out of the krylon primer that i put down first. next i used alchlad chrome to get a very reflective surface even though the panels maintain a fairly polished look, there are still variations in the panel color. if i used a different alchlad color, even a polished one, over the chrome base, i would loose some of the shine. thanks to a post i found all in spanish by diego quijano (i used google to translate it), i masked off different panels and used very very light mists of semi gloss and matt varnish and this is what i got. also now you can see the fit with the new feathers w/ engines i'm really happy with the outcome .as you can see, slight panel variations but still maintains some shine. its still very silver but once finished with the weathering of the area, it should look nice and heat tinted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rocat Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 lovely work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fly-n-hi Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 even though the panels maintain a fairly polished look, there are still variations in the panel color. if i used a different alchlad color, even a polished one, over the chrome base, i would loose some of the shine. thanks to a post i found all in spanish by diego quijano (i used google to translate it), i masked off different panels and used very very light mists of semi gloss and matt varnish and this is what i got. Very nice! How did you mask the high shine Alclad II? I ask because I masked some high shine areas on a recent build and the Tamiya masking tape lifted the Polished Aluminum paint just ever so slightly...just enough to leave a "shadow" where the tape was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.linus Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 lovely work! Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.linus Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 Very nice! How did you mask the high shine Alclad II? I ask because I masked some high shine areas on a recent build and the Tamiya masking tape lifted the Polished Aluminum paint just ever so slightly...just enough to leave a "shadow" where the tape was. Thanks! I used post'it notes. The glue is so low tac it doesn't do anything to the paint. Plus once you get the semi gloss or matt coat on it, it makes it a little more durable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfgun33 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Awesome work!! The paint work is incredible! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Middleton Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 great work .linus; the paint, metal backend and brass sheet work is fantastic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.linus Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Awesome work!! The paint work is incredible! wow! thanks so much! great work .linus; the paint, metal backend and brass sheet work is fantastic Thanks ken! here are a few more side projects that i've been working on when i'm not painting the main fuselage. this is the center pylon and the work on this part , aside from the hud, has been my most enjoyable.- and won't be seen unless upside down haha-go figure. the load out that 201 is carrying in the odyssey dawn photos i found, show no ordinance on the center pylon, so i took the liberty of updating it to look more like the real thing. the ejector even comes out hahaha. also the wing pylons were missing a few nuts and bolts, so i added those and this little open port at the back. i dunno what it's for, maybe a fuel dump-if you know you can enlighten the rest of us. also the main launch rails are pretty barren so i touched them up as well with stock styrene. you can see the the opposite rail in its original state supporting the updated one. and last but not least. started painting the wheels. this is the first step of several and hopefully it will have a slight more wear to the tires when i'm finished. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.linus Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 The pitot spikes sticking out of the side of the aircraft were bulky and didn't look right so I drilled them out. I then took a sewing pin, clipped the end an inserted it in the hole. Much better. Before After Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMan Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Very nice scratchbuilding of the CFT bomb rails, and that BMF just looks amazing! Hey where can one go about getting the Alclad paints? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.linus Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) Very nice scratchbuilding of the CFT bomb rails, and that BMF just looks amazing! Hey where can one go about getting the Alclad paints? thanks joan!. well there are several different places. i've gotten a few colors from my local hobby shop. What they didn't have, i got from www.spruebrothers.com they have every color under the sun. :)/>/> hope this helps! got the camera back for a bit so here's just a little snippet of the paint, at its current stage. fyi this is pre any work on the metal areas paint sealed, filters added and sealed, panels washed, and decals added and sealed, followed by a matt coat the bottom and as you can see, that yellowy color blended down right nice. i still have the flare/ chaff ports to paint this has nothing to do with the paint. i just like how the combiner glass on the hud glows. hahah Edited November 25, 2013 by .linus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Middleton Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 great continued work! Yes, on the back of the pylon is a fuel vent, not sure it is a fuel dump. On take offs, you can sometimes see it spewing out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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