bugs3144 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Saw on the news earlier of a US cargo plane crash at Bahram air base in Afganistan. All 5 aboard killed were from Michigan. Any one know if it was a Kalitta Air plane? I worked for Connie as Maintenance controller many years ago. Thoughts and prayers out to family members. Frank ATL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nightiemission Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 National Air cargo. Sounds like cargo shifted just after takeoff. Terry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shadoweng Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Um which crash are you talking about? There was a 747 with 7 people on board that crashed...possible load shift, and then also a MC-12 by Kandahar with 4. Nothing with 5 unless it Just happened..... J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyingfortress Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Um which crash are you talking about? There was a 747 with 7 people on board that crashed...possible load shift, and then also a MC-12 by Kandahar with 4. Nothing with 5 unless it Just happened..... J The 747 had a total of 9 on board with 5 being from Michigan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
streetstream Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c32_1367332518 Video of the crash happening. Makes the hair on my neck stand up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shadoweng Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I am confused, even the link said 7.. was there 2 on the ground. Being a flyer that was not pleasant to watch at all!!!! So sad actually to think about what was going through their minds... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFlyingDutchman Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c32_1367332518 Video of the crash happening. Makes the hair on my neck stand up. My god, that was one of the worst crash videos I have ever seen. RIP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Dude Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c32_1367332518 Video of the crash happening. Makes the hair on my neck stand up. Wow! That is almost surreal, looks like a remote control airplane crashing. Condolences to all involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Good lord! That was horrible! I've never seen anything like that! :o RIP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigasshammm Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Yea that's one of those things you almost wish you hadn't seen. Terrible Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cr7driver Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) That was the most sickening thing I have ever seen. RIP to the brave crew of that aircraft. We honor our Veterans, but sometimes we forget that there are a lot of civilians who also sacrifice a lot for the war effort. They may seem like highly paid civilian contractors, but I know from personal experience that they were not and they just made the ultimate sacrifice. God rest their souls. Edited April 30, 2013 by cr7driver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Camera date reads Feb 1st 2013??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Antonov Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) An embed, courtesy of YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icfVsql38oc Initial word seems to be that the aircraft was carrying a load of vehicles which somehow broke loose and rolled rear, creating an extreme aft CG which led to a stall. As others have said, horrifying. Whatever one may think of the war over there, this was seven guys just trying to make a living. Terrible... sad. Edited May 1, 2013 by Antonov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fellow Hobbyist Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 It is frightening to see a heavy simply fall out of the sky like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcon20driver Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Found out on FB that one of the crew was a student at the flight school I used to teach at. He wasn't one of my students but quite a few friends trained him. It's another unfortunate and close to home reminder that flying is a serious job. RIP Jamie and your fellow crewmates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 My condolences and prayers for the Crew's family and friends ... -Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Camus272 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 That is the worst thing I've seen since 9/11. Truly horrifying. Brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Chladek Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) Well, look at the bright side (if there is a bright side). The impact angle and rate of descent means they were likely killed instantly before the fireball consumed them (the fuselage flattened like a beer can). But I can imagine it was sheer terror in the cockpit as the nose pointed skyward and pushing the control yokes forward did NOTHING for the 23 seconds from the problem first popping up until impact itself! Edited May 1, 2013 by Jay Chladek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) Initial word seems to be that the aircraft was carrying a load of vehicles which somehow broke loose and rolled rear, creating an extreme aft CG which led to a stall. As others have said, horrifying. Whatever one may think of the war over there, this was seven guys just trying to make a living. Terrible... sad. What a waste. All that so we could bring a few unwanted MRAP's or Humvee's back, just to have them sit stateside and rust away. As far as a "bright side" to this tragedy, the only thing that comes to mind is that the aircraft at least missed impacting into a residential area. That video was truly disturbing. Does tend to support the unsecured load theory. Looks like the aircraft went out of control nose up, stalled and went straight in. Wonder if it was human error due to improperly securing of the load or some sort of material failure either of the restraint or the aircraft? Edited May 1, 2013 by 11bee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) MY sincerest , deepest condolences to the families, friends and colleagues of the crew that were killed. It's a horrific video to watch. 9/11 and this as Brian stated is the worst thing to have seen..remember watching that live too. Rest in Peace.... :salute: :salute: :salute: Edited May 1, 2013 by HOLMES Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve N Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 One of my coworkers graduated high school with one of the crew, and he used to date her best friend. Small world... SN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Emvar Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 My biggest fear every day I load an aircraft.... Fear is good because I check it all myself. There is a total of 96 years of experience on my crew and it is just a a natural thing for us to double check each others work. Locks secured is not taken lightly..... a load shift is very bad. That aircraft had to have a significant shift to have that issue..... I figure the Load on the Pallets might have broken loose which would have caused a catastrophic situation. Very disturbing Video.... Always respected the 747. My heartfelt condolences to the families, I hope the cause is found and procedures are improved. Emil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Camera date reads Feb 1st 2013??? Means nothing. I have two digital camcorders and two digital cameras, I don't think the day, date and time is anything NEAR reality on any of them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bashace Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 The crash missed my ILS system at the end of the runway by 150 feet. I can tell you that it did indeed happen on the 29th. V/r Ron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigasshammm Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 This reminds me of the C-130 that went down fighting that forest fire years ago. Just as awful to watch when it swoops into the valley and then the wings fold up like it's on a carrier. Ugh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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