Litvyak Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I think N scale rail cars might be a good place to start but the difference between N Scale and 1/144 might be too great. Maybe look into Japanese railway cars? Japanese N scale is 1/150... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HowardM Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Hannants just announced availability of the Buran Orbiter alone (code 72023) at £153.99. Shows as Kits (injection) but would be surprised if not the usual Amonster glass fibre with injection details. I think I will wait for 72026 with the boosters. HowardM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spellbinder99 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) The main fuselage/wing assembly will be fibreglass with the fin, engines, cockpit, rcs panels and undercarriage in injection molded plastic, same as the Analogue kit and to a lesser extent the Buran/VM-T kit (that one only has the cockpit and the airframe with the rear faing molded in place. It will be interesting to see if they attempt an open cargo bay. Given that is the Hannants price it bodes well for the Orbiter to be the same price as the Analaogue kit through other suppliers. What I REALLY want is the stand alone Orbiter to display wheels down and the full stack kit as well. Confirmed, HobbyTerra has it listed at only a few dollars more than the Analogue. Cheers Tony Edited May 27, 2013 by spellbinder99 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spellbinder99 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) Just ordered the Orbiter kit (72023) through my local specialist hobby supplier. He can get it here for about $225 Australian including shipping, which compares well with the HobbyTerra price plus shipping and beats the Hannants price even before adding shipping, so I am happy. I estimate that the full stack kit will probably be in the $650-700 range which I am OK with. Yes, it is no sub-$100 Revell/Monogram full stack, but the Energya-Buran setup seems to have a much more substantial "prescence" and will become a real project. Cheers Tony Edited May 29, 2013 by spellbinder99 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hi Tony, very interesting, I'm already curious on your opinion about the quality of the kit and first images of the building start. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spellbinder99 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 No problem Manfred, I will post some pictures when I get the Orbiter kit. He says it should not take too long to get hold of but I am imagining it will be similar quality and detail to the Buran Analogue kit and the Buran airframe included in the VM-T/Buran combo. I have the combo and the detail in the cockpit is not bad, certainly more than expected in what is meant to be "bare" airframe. I am really interested in the detail and complexity of the Energya/Buran combo as overall the Energya with its central core engines and four strap on boosters is a much more complex system than the Space Shuttle and its fuel tank/ two solid rocket booster combo, at least in my opinion. I must stress I have no hard info on the kit or its price yet, I am just extrapolating from previous Amodel "monster" kits. Cheers Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HowardM Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Energia Buran from Amodel now in at Hannants at £399.99 Howard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Youngtiger1 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Interesting thread. I am a huge fan of Real Space stuff and the Russian Energia w/ Buran shuttle in 1/72 is awesome news, however, I'll wait to see if I can find it at better price. Hopefully, within few months the price might come down a little like it does for most kits...hopefully!! Btw, how big is this compare to US Shuttle w/ boosters in same scale? TIA Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spellbinder99 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Hopefully the price does come down. You can get the E/B direct from Hobby Terra for $468 US and they give you free shipping on that, which given how big the box is makes it a GOOD deal in my opinion. My cost landed in Australia was $550 Australian which is $490 US so is comparable. Be aware that these are part of Amodels' Amonster range which can go out of production after a while. Orbiter wise the two are pretty similar in size. The Energya core is much taller than the Shuttle centre tank and has four independent engines with nozzles and the four boosters as opposed to the two SRB's of the US Shuttle stack make the Energya much bulkier overall. Cheers Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I swear it is almost an obsession i see sometimes with certain shops. Hobby Terra and Sprue Brothers come to mind. Cant speak about SB, but HT is overpriced. Here is the stack, for 372 bucks, 98 lower than one HT: http://armoryhobbyshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&sort=p.price&order=DESC&manufacturer_id=24&product_id=34847 Yes, free shipping above 120 usd. It isnt in stock, but send the owner an email. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niart17 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) I swear it is almost an obsession i see sometimes with certain shops. :rolleyes:/>/>/> Hobby Terra and Sprue Brothers come to mind. Cant speak about SB, but HT is overpriced. Here is the stack, for 372 bucks, 98 lower than one HT: http://armoryhobbyshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&sort=p.price&order=DESC&manufacturer_id=24&product_id=34847 Yes, free shipping above 120 usd. It isnt in stock, but send the owner an email. Just speaking for myself, I get really cautious when a company lists 90% of their "stock" as backorder. I think on the first glance through Armory Hobby's website I saw 2 out of 50 or so kits I listed as in-stock. The other 48 or so were listed as back order. It's easy to advertise a low price on something you don't have. Is it that price once they get it in-stock IF they actually ever get it? That, plus several of the kits I saw were either higher, the same or only slightly lower than those listed on Hobbyterra or SB. For example, I can buy an Academy F-14 Bombcat for $38 from S.B. (and actually buy it cause they HVE IT) whereas Armory list it as $43.80 IF they ever get it. Not saying I ruled them out, but haven't seen anything to make me change to ordering from them yet. One thing that SB has is if it's listed, they have it. (at least that's how it was last I actually shopped around there.) That plus customer service, sometimes warrants slightly higher prices. Again though, a kit not in-stock might as well be selling for $100,000,000 if they never really sell it for a listed $5. just sayin' Bill Edited August 26, 2013 by niart17 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spellbinder99 Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I was fully expecting the Stack to cost over $600 Aus landed in Australia. That I got it for $550 was a real bonus to me. I think it is a great kit and even allowing for the joint filling needed on the fibreglass components it looks like there is STILL less filling and cleanup than on a Revell 1/72 scale Shuttle Full Stack kit!! ;) Cheers Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) Just speaking for myself, I get really cautious when a company lists 90% of their "stock" as backorder. I think on the first glance through Armory Hobby's website I saw 2 out of 50 or so kits I listed as in-stock. The other 48 or so were listed as back order. It's easy to advertise a low price on something you don't have. Is it that price once they get it in-stock IF they actually ever get it? That, plus several of the kits I saw were either higher, the same or only slightly lower than those listed on Hobbyterra or SB. For example, I can buy an Academy F-14 Bombcat for $38 from S.B. (and actually buy it cause they HVE IT) whereas Armory list it as $43.80 IF they ever get it. Not saying I ruled them out, but haven't seen anything to make me change to ordering from them yet. One thing that SB has is if it's listed, they have it. (at least that's how it was last I actually shopped around there.) That plus customer service, sometimes warrants slightly higher prices. Again though, a kit not in-stock might as well be selling for $100,000,000 if they never really sell it for a listed $5. just sayin' Bill They don't have A Model kits in stock in their location, they order it from someone else then ship it to you. Big ones anyway. As i have told before, possibly in this thread even, i ordered A Model M-50 long time ago. Which wasn't in stock either, but before i ordered i asked if he could get it in stock. Around 3 weeks later i had the kit. Academy F-14? Well, that is a silly example alright. And i can get it for 25 bucks (not that i would ever want it), so what? http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/27064.html?t=1377608108 Or i could ask for restock and get it for 21: http://www.sealmodel.com/product_details.php?category_id=0&search_string=F-14+bombcat&search_category_id=0&item_id=289 Point being, Academy is based in Asia (Korea). Amodel is based in Ukraine, so is HT and Armory. 90% of the time best price for a kit is if you buy it local to the maker. In stock or not in stock, they can get it in stock. You assumed that because it isn't in stock they cant get it in stock. Edited August 27, 2013 by Berkut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niart17 Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Again, not saying they aren't possibly a great place to buy, they may very well be. But the fact is almost every kit I searched for was listed as on back order, easily 80% to 90% of them. Even kits that are typically always in stock elsewhere. That's a bit of a turn off for me. But anyway, not really what this thread is about, so I'll leave it be. Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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