Spectre711 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I'm looking to achieve a similar finish as seen in the photos below. I use primarily enamels and Testors paints but could be open to other options depending on it's availability in my area.. Would you recommend I use Testors silver enamel or some of their metalizer paints? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scapilot Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) Your best bet for a natural finish is to go with alclad. But if plain old silver is your pickings, then I'd go with model masters chrome silver. May be a bit too bright for this particular finish as this appears more of an aluminum look, but I use Chrome silver for all my silverish needs. I would say go with model masters aluminum but it's always been very grainy and unnatural in my experience with it, and looks more like a semi gloss coated gray. Edited May 20, 2013 by scapilot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
majortomski Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 The 1:1 scale finish on those birds is called coroguard. It was (I believe) a laquer base with ground aluminum powder in it. Testors "aluminum" will work well but it's a bit light. One of the airline paint companies actually bottles a "coroguard" but I think it looks a bit dark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spectre711 Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 I have the MM Metalizer non-buffing aluminum bit that looks a bit grainy also but I can vary the shade by using a different base coat. I have never sprayed their chrome or aluminum enamel before so I guess its time to do some test shots with those. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyingfortress Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Poly Scale Flat Aluminum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spectre711 Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Haven't seen Poly Scale paint in my area for a while now unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChippyWho Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) I wouldn't discount Tamiya AS-12 Bare Metal Silver -it is a bit more 'Silver' than 'Bare Metal', so it's good for the 'Lookalike'-style silver paint finish. It applies very well from the can, or will decant/de-gas OK if you have to airbrush it. Then you can have hours of fun getting the exact finish you want (those Thuds look quite flat) with different clear varnishes! Edited May 20, 2013 by ChippyWho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
admiralcag Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Floquil Old Silver, maybe? Vern Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spectre711 Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 Here is a test shot using the MM Non-buffing aluminum and the MM chrome silver. The silver paint is a bit old and went down thicker but the metalizer went down nice and thin. I put down just enough so I could not tell if it was painted over the green or the gray. I just scuffed things to level out the existing coats of paint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jinxter13 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 This very scheme has been one I've considered often and when I decide to do it, I'm going to give Testor's Metalizer Dark Anodonic Gray a try and if works on the first try I'm off and running Dark Anodonic Gray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) Floquil Old Silver, maybe? Vern I highly recommend you look into the Floquil Silvers, they make a variety of them from Bright Silver, Platinum Mist, CSX Grey Graphite, and as Vern recommended Old Silver. In the process of painting the B-36 I experimented with a few under-cote colors, I think you will be closer to the color your looking for by using the Old Silver and adding a bit of grey to it, the finish your looking to replicate is not a Natural Metal Finish,but a metallic paint, I feel your going down the wrong path with the Metalizers and or Alclads, and as a side note I see you've noticed the finish the Non-Buffing Metalizers leave, they are grainy, and I don't really care for them. The wing spar on this B-36 is Bright Silver with black added, not the color your looking for but you can see the affect of the silver with grey/black added. Curt a lightened concoction Straight Floqil Bright Silver Edited May 22, 2013 by Netz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spectre711 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) So what did Testors buy out and then decide to stop making? Was it Poly Scale or Floquil?I know my LHS (30 min away) has a very limited supply of Poly Scale and Gunz but know Floquil. Edited May 22, 2013 by Spectre711 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zeus60 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Netz, what primer did you use on the B-17? It's beautiful! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OldThudMan Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Model Masters has (prethinned) aluminum both buffing and non-buffing (I think they still do)...The non-buffing would be close......... Back in the early 60's the USAF and TAC did not use letter designations for airbases....Can't tell where the two F models were and disposition as 418 and 445 are not listed on Joe Baugher's site.... The Bottom photo of D models are the group based at 562d Tactical Fighter Squadron, deployed from McConnell AFB, Wichita, KS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spectre711 Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 Model Masters has (prethinned) aluminum both buffing and non-buffing (I think they still do)...The non-buffing would be close......... I kind of like the look of the non-buffing also. Up in post #9 here there is a test shot I did and the left wing has the non-buffing aluminum on it where the right has the chrome silver paint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Netz, what primer did you use on the B-17? It's beautiful! None, just floquil straight on to the plastic. But if you were going to use Alclad then Tamiya grey primer, and Tamiya Black TS-14 sprays. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spectre711 Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 Back in the early 60's the USAF and TAC did not use letter designations for airbases....Can't tell where the two F models were and disposition as 418 and 445 are not listed on Joe Baugher's site.... I also notice the pylon and drop tank on 418 has some type of black out treatment that I see from time to time. Do you know what the story is on this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zeus60 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 None, just floquil straight on to the plastic. But if you were going to use Alclad then Tamiya grey primer, and Tamiya Black TS-14 sprays. Curt Thanks. Except for things like landing gear, I don't think I've every sprayed an NMF without a primer. Stacey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jinxter13 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 For those wondering what all that smoke is from, once you've seen it you'll never forget your first "Thud" cartridge start. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
majortomski Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 For those wondering what all that smoke is from, once you've seen it you'll never forget your first "Thud" cartridge start. Meh. Watch a KC-135A ALERT cart start. Now THAT's smoken! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarcDuhon Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 iuse dark anodic grey quite a bit , but it is alot darker than Aluminum... This F-105 finish is very similar to the Al paint that USSR used on the Mig-21 back in the 70's It oxidized and developed a flat grayish appearance with time .. ise a paint with very fine particles... that dont have a shiny finish.. I use Alclad White aluminum coated with light sheen finish by alclad.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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