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1. Perry Mason's Client was guilty...

2. Pancho had never met Cisco.......

3. The Wright Bros became farmers instead of owning a Bicycle shop

4. Washington had been named King of The U.S..

5. The Rosetta Stone never been discovered

6. Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor failed.

7. The Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria had sunk in a South Atlantic storm.

8. Bill Gates had been a Chemistry Major

9. Archimedes had been a goat herder

10. Alexander Graham Bell had been a minister.

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1. Perry Mason's Client was guilty...

2. Pancho had never met Cisco.......

3. The Wright Bros became farmers instead of owning a Bicycle shop

4. Washington had been named King of The U.S..

5. The Rosetta Stone never been discovered

6. Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor failed.

7. The Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria had sunk in a South Atlantic storm.

8. Bill Gates had been a Chemistry Major

9. Archimedes had been a goat herder

10. Alexander Graham Bell had been a minister.

There's a claim that Gustav Whitehead actually made the first, powered, heavier-than-air flight and not the Wright Bros. Whitehead claimed to have carried out a controlled, powered flight in his Number 21 monoplane at Fairfield, Connecticut on 14 August 1901. The flight was reported in the Bridgeport Herald local newspaper and other eyewitness reports appeared. In March 2013, Whitehead's flight was accepted in the editorial to the 2013 edition of Jane's All the World's Aircraft as the first powered, controlled flight of a heavier-than-air craft. The Smithsonian Institution disagree that Whitehead flew as reported and maintain that the Wrights deserve the honour.

As for a few of the others, someone else would have discovered America, or had the 'Eureka!' moment, and if Bell had been a minister then Elisha Grey would be remembered as the inventor of the telephone. Both he and Bell filed patents for the telephone on the same day (in fact, Bell and Grey knew each other and there's some suggestion that Bell and his lawyer were not exactly honest in their dealings with Grey and the patents office).

Vince

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Well it would not have made a difference. The only reason we are talking about this today is because it occurred. What I mean is for instance lets say Bill Gates was a Chemist and Microsoft never existed, who would have known it was suppose to have been there? It's not like someone would have said to him, hey your destiny was to revolutionize the computer industry. Besides, the Vikings already discovered America and there is evidence of possible Roman discoveries. I'm sure if you ask the natives of the time they probably would have preferred someone other than Columbus to deal with. He was a murdering money hungry criminal. If the Japanese had failed in their attack it would not have made a difference it was still an attack. Roosevelt still would have had his catalyst to enter the war. Perry's clients would have gone to jail then appealed their cases. Pancho and Cisco? Have to claim ignorance on that. It can be a lot of fun considering alternatives. This can be a fun post to talk about.

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There's a claim that Gustav Whitehead actually made the first, powered, heavier-than-air flight and not the Wright Bros. Whitehead claimed to have carried out a controlled, powered flight in his Number 21 monoplane at Fairfield, Connecticut on 14 August 1901. The flight was reported in the Bridgeport Herald local newspaper and other eyewitness reports appeared. In March 2013, Whitehead's flight was accepted in the editorial to the 2013 edition of Jane's All the World's Aircraft as the first powered, controlled flight of a heavier-than-air craft. The Smithsonian Institution disagree that Whitehead flew as reported and maintain that the Wrights deserve the honour.

As for a few of the others, someone else would have discovered America, or had the 'Eureka!' moment, and if Bell had been a minister then Elisha Grey would be remembered as the inventor of the telephone. Both he and Bell filed patents for the telephone on the same day (in fact, Bell and Grey knew each other and there's some suggestion that Bell and his lawyer were not exactly honest in their dealings with Grey and the patents office).

Vince

If you read the history between the Wrights and the Smithsonian you will see that the museum chose to display Langley's flying machine as the first successful airplane. Langley had connections with the museum--the surviving Wright brother would only donate The Flyer if the museum changed its stance on who invented the first flying machine

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If you read the history between the Wrights and the Smithsonian you will see that the museum chose to display Langley's flying machine as the first successful airplane. Langley had connections with the museum--the surviving Wright brother would only donate The Flyer if the museum changed its stance on who invented the first flying machine

Yeah, there's actually a Contract between the Smithosnian and the Wright family. By contract, if the museum wants to keep the flying machine, they have to publicly claim that it was the first. In fact the contract states that Orville was the first to fly even though it was Wilbur.

While Wiki is rarely a source I cite, this is interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_by_Contract

This wouldn't be the first (or only) time the Smithsonian has been accused of sweeping historical finds (such as archaeological digs) under the rug when it was counter to what the museum has always stated. There have been a few Archaeologists claim that findings at dig sites were recovered by people from the museum and then those artifacts have been hidden away and access to them refused.

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There's a claim that Gustav Whitehead actually made the first, powered, heavier-than-air flight and not the Wright Bros. Whitehead claimed to have carried out a controlled, powered flight in his Number 21 monoplane at Fairfield, Connecticut on 14 August 1901. The flight was reported in the Bridgeport Herald local newspaper and other eyewitness reports appeared. In March 2013, Whitehead's flight was accepted in the editorial to the 2013 edition of Jane's All the World's Aircraft as the first powered, controlled flight of a heavier-than-air craft. The Smithsonian Institution disagree that Whitehead flew as reported and maintain that the Wrights deserve the honour.

Vince

The one question not answered by the Whitehead claim is that if he was sucessfull why didin't he continue to develop and improve the design?

That is the one thing the Wrights did that none of the other first flyers attempted to do. They strove to learn and improve upon thier designs, all the others seemed to just come to a dead end.

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