Trojan Thunder Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) Double post Edited August 27, 2013 by Trojan Thunder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveV22FE Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 Trojan and Nimrod, Remember, if you going to build a C-130H (Super E) or a C-130H1 you can leave the fuselage windows as is. If the C-130 your planning to model is an H2/H2.5 or H3, you will have to change the windows on the forward fuselage. Check your references. It is noticeable on those Herks. The later birds have the escape hatch relocated and also have the square paratroop door windows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Thanks Steve, I think the RAAF aircraft were modified with the large door windows when the EWSP mods were carried out. Need to check refs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nimrod77 Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Here's one of our last H's. Not sure what sub model it is.... Img credit Les Bushell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveV22FE Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) Here's one of our last H's. Not sure what sub model it is.... Img credit Les Bushell. It's either an H1 or an early H2. Without knowing the exact contract number, it's hard to tell. But it's definately one of those two. Later H2s didn't have the HF long wire antennas as this one does. Later H2s had the RoseMount Pitot System and the large escape hatches. Basically, all that to say that you can build this Herk without modifying the fuselage and paratroop door windows. Find an update set for the sponsons and the -15 engines and you should be in business. I am working on a C-130H variant description for my clubs next newsletter. When I finish it, I will post a link in the thread and you can download it. Edited August 27, 2013 by SteveV22FE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nimrod77 Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Thanks Steve, that sounds great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveV22FE Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) I ended up scratch building the SATCOM antenna. It was easier than I thought it was going to be. Here's the latest and greatest progress shot...Primed and Antenna'd. I'm having a hard time deciding if I want to paint this model AMC Gray. I remember when these aircraft were first painted gray, they seemed to be a lighter gray than what present day AMC Gray is. Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me. Anyone out there have any thoughts. Edited December 22, 2014 by SteveV22FE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveV22FE Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 Thanks Steve, that sounds great. Here is that link I promised...dropped the ball on this one... http://www.tulsaipms.org/quarterly/TMF_Vol2_Iss1.pdf I did a write up on all the different H model Herk versions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hajo L. Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Nice! HAJO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveV22FE Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Photo showing HF Long wire antennas. Had to do a little work around the windscreen. Next up: Painting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Steve, Impressive to say the least. Your attention to detail is well thought out, and it's execution is top notch. I noticed that you only pre-shaded the flying surfaces rather then all the recessed panel lines. I really like that approach, as pre-shading often ends up looking like a checker board if it's over done, and too much of the pre-shading shows through the finish coat. Joel Edited February 20, 2014 by Joel_W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveV22FE Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Steve, Impressive to say the least. Your attention to detail is well thought out, and it's execution is top notch. I noticed that you only pre-shaded the flying surfaces rather then all the recessed panel lines. I really like that approach, as pre-shading often ends up looking like a checker board if it's over done, and too much of the pre-shading shows through the finish coat. Joel Thanks for the compliment!!! I'm probably going to get flamed for saying this, but I think the pre/post shading panel lines stuff is overrated. During my entire aviation career, which began in 1990, I have never seen an aircraft that looks like some of these models look. I understand the "artistic" side of it, but aircraft don't look that. Yes, I know there are some aircraft, especially those deployed, where oil and dirt get into the panel recesses. For example, when I worked V-22s, there are no panels to speak of. There a just a few panels on top of the wings, which are sealed with Pro-seal and just a few access panels on the side of the fuselage, which are also sealed with Pro-seal. The only time you'll see a panel line on a V-22 is if they didn't touch up the paint after they sealed the panel. I'm kinda torn on panel shading. Edited February 21, 2014 by SteveV22FE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Check Six Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 The progress looks great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Nice work Steve, the latest touches look good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveV22FE Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Nice work Steve, the latest touches look good Thanks Ray. I got the Eduard Windshield Mask put on. I'm actually impressed with these!! I think she's ready for paint... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Thanks for the compliment!!! I'm probably going to get flamed for saying this, but I think the pre/post shading panel lines stuff is overrated. During my entire aviation career, which began in 1990, I have never seen an aircraft that looks like some of these models look. I understand the "artistic" side of it, but aircraft don't look that. Yes, I know there are some aircraft, especially those deployed, where oil and dirt get into the panel recesses. For example, when I worked V-22s, there are no panels to speak of. There a just a few panels on top of the wings, which are sealed with Pro-seal and just a few access panels on the side of the fuselage, which are also sealed with Pro-seal. The only time you'll see a panel line on a V-22 is if they didn't touch up the paint after they sealed the panel. I'm kinda torn on panel shading. Steve, I couldn't agree with your assessment more. Pre-shading has in a sense grown out of it's originally intended purpose, to be a nearly mandatory weathering step. While it adds interest to, and breaks of a large area of a model aircraft, the comparison to real life is usually far removed. I've often pointed out that viewing an aircraft, or even a car from 48 ft. away (comparison to 1/48 scale), one will rarely even see a panel line unless the sunlight is being reflected off the edges of those panels, which doesn't happen all that often. This is the main reason that I've stopped using black or a dark gray for pin washes for panel lines, and moved to a shade or two darker then the base color. The only exception if my recently completed P-61A-5, which is weather beaten black. Even now I wish I had done those panel lines much darker. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nimrod77 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Thanks for the compliment!!! I'm probably going to get flamed for saying this, but I think the pre/post shading panel lines stuff is overrated. During my entire aviation career, which began in 1990, I have never seen an aircraft that looks like some of these models look. I understand the "artistic" side of it, but aircraft don't look that. Yes, I know there are some aircraft, especially those deployed, where oil and dirt get into the panel recesses. For example, when I worked V-22s, there are no panels to speak of. There a just a few panels on top of the wings, which are sealed with Pro-seal and just a few access panels on the side of the fuselage, which are also sealed with Pro-seal. The only time you'll see a panel line on a V-22 is if they didn't touch up the paint after they sealed the panel. I'm kinda torn on panel shading. I think I totally depends on the airframe being modeled. The F-111G's I worked on had very distinct fading in the centre of the major panels that looked just like pre-shading. It's true that you must, as always, check your references and decide the right weathering for your subject. Using pre-shading to break up monotone colour schemes is a very effective use of the technique. It doesn't have to be shading around panels, it can be used to show ribs, discolouration from wear or other sources such as oxidisation of the paint. My 2c anyway. Looking forward to seeing your Hercybird n paint :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveV22FE Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) Paint's on! I started by paint the external fuel tanks AMC Gray. When I compared AMC Gray to the Testors Gray Primer it was the EXACT same color. I am 99.9% certain now that AMC Gray is too dark. So once that dried, I sanded the tanks with 2000 grit and reshot the tanks Model Master Neutral Gray FS36270. That is spot on to the color I remember these Herks being painted. Here's the overall aircraft in Neutral Gray. Edited February 22, 2014 by SteveV22FE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k5ikl Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Looking good Steve. Wish you still lived here so I could see it up close and personal. You are doing a great job with it. Cheers, Jerry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Steve, Really looks good in a coat of paint. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveV22FE Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 Spinners Done! Exhaust Areas Done! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveV22FE Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 External Tanks On! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveV22FE Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Panel lines...after a 4000 grit go over...you can kind of make them out in these pics. It breaks up the overall expanse of gray. I kinda like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nimrod77 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Looking good mate;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveV22FE Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Props Attached! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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