Dmanton300 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) Oh goodie. . . . separate outer wing panels. Let battle commence to get a decent looking spread wing. (Or, more likely, not!) Edited October 10, 2013 by Dmanton300 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
polybebber Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) The first Intruder kit with the correct intake depth Lothar Edited October 10, 2013 by polybebber Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wardog Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) Looks to have some real nice improvements over existing 48th scale kits including the engine bay doors and exhaust duct area as well as including provisions for an open radome. The one piece canopy/windscreen is also much desirable. Maybe this is the kit we've all been waiting and hoping for....FINALLY! Edited October 11, 2013 by wardog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metroman Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Looks to have some real nice improvements over existing 48th scale kits including the engine bay doors and exhaust duct area as well including provisions for an open radome. The one piece canopy/windscreen is also much desirable. Maybe this is the kit we've all been waiting and hoping for....FINALLY! +2 !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jinxter13 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Well this will relegate my Revell Intruder down further in da stash.....and with my dream Intruder markings....Gooooooooooo Panthers!!!! :nanner: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randypandy831 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 I was excited about the kinetic but it fell short with the four piece canopy and some fit challenges. I didn't want to touch it. My skills aren't good enough to rescribe revells kit. I'll still snag it if it isn't even totally accurate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 I'll never do another Kinetic Intruder, if it hadn't been a commission build I never would have finished it! Looking forward to this one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diamondback Six Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Aww, darn, doesn't look like A-6F is in the cards from this tool. :( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dylan Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 It looks really good, but I think I will wait and see how it builds up before buying one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 well, I'd standing on the sidelines watching all this. Just wanting to see H.B. scale it down to 1/72 as the Fujimis are getting harder to find everyday! gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randypandy831 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 I'll never do another Kinetic Intruder, if it hadn't been a commission build I never would have finished it! Looking forward to this one what exact problems did you run into? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SouthViper Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) I really do not trust in Kinetic and even less in HB kits, they are more toys than scaled kits... I will save my Monogram/Revell kits... SouthViper Edited October 14, 2013 by SouthViper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 what exact problems did you run into? I have a whole in progress thread on my Kinetic build and a display case post, try searching for them for the details. IIRC, the major problems were with the canopy and the nose. The cockpit tub is also fiddly to get between the fuselage halves. The wings don't work well in the down position. Instructions are poor in areas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcon1974 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Anyone know what the U.S. MSRP is going to be? I apologize if it posted elsewhere and I have overlooked it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary F Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Pretty sure I saw SRP of $110-120, less online. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K-5 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Pretty sure I saw SRP of $110-120, less online. I don't want mine anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Check Six Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'll never do another Kinetic Intruder, if it hadn't been a commission build I never would have finished it! Looking forward to this one Amen! The #1 reason why the Kinetic A-6E pissed me off: $64.99+ tax . If the f#%kin' model was $30 cheaper I could live with it. But at that price it should have been an awesome/flawless kit in 1/48th scale. I'm wondering if their E-2C Super Hawkeye is of similar quality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Captoveur Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'm wondering if their E-2C Super Hawkeye is of similar quality. The Hawkeye is a flippin disaster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randypandy831 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) hope their F-5 doesn't kill me and I fk'n hate their side open boxes as well. Edited October 14, 2013 by randypandy831 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wardog Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Personally I feel Kinetic would be doing themselves a huge favor if they concentrated more on the quality aspects of their kits. The gritty plastic texture, oversized panel lines, bad fit, odd shape, and huge trailing edge flap thickness should really not be present in kits manufactured with the aid of what I presume is more advanced technology than before, especially for the prices they're asking for. In the case of their A-6e, it appears a lot of people were dissapointed in the overall quality as most buyers were hoping this kit would blow away the Monogram offering from 20+ years prior.........it was obvious this wasn't necessarily the case. Although it improved in certain areas, it failed miserably in others. Maybe on their behalf It's a little unfair to compare them and their A-6 offering to Monogram who had been in the scale model business for over 30 years when they put out their A-6. Maybe they just need more time/feedback to "get with the program" and start offering products that really warrant the amount of cash they're asking??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metroman Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Their E-2C builds in a manner no more challenging than most other major brands, and the most 'difficult' area to remedy is the the dorsal cooling intake (five minutes in all) = so hardly a disaster, unless you don't have the talent. :monkeydance:/> Edited October 14, 2013 by metroman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raymond Chung Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Personally I feel Kinetic would be doing themselves a huge favor if they concentrated more on the quality aspects of their kits. The gritty plastic texture, oversized panel lines, bad fit, odd shape, and huge trailing edge flap thickness should really not be present in kits manufactured with the aid of what I presume is more advanced technology than before, especially for the prices they're asking for. In the case of their A-6e, it appears a lot of people were dissapointed in the overall quality as most buyers were hoping this kit would blow away the Monogram offering from 20+ years prior.........it was obvious this wasn't necessarily the case. Although it improved in certain areas, it failed miserably in others. Maybe on their behalf It's a little unfair to compare them and their A-6 offering to Monogram who had been in the scale model business for over 30 years when they put out their A-6. Maybe they just need more time/feedback to "get with the program" and start offering products that really warrant the amount of cash they're asking??? Dear "Wardog" Sorry to put my response here under another brand thread. Yes, A-6E is not good. The A-6E is the product which undergo development team changover, in fact, I am directly in charge of that. Tons of "complaint/feedback" are collected after the A-6e release. We have consider and put those input into the subsequence product (e.g. F-5A, T-45, KFIR, Alpha Jet...) Any subjects prior to A-6E is handled by different designer as well as quality control team. As you may know LuckyModel take over the full Kinetic company in 2010 and it has been a long way for us. Back to A-6E, the 4 pcs canopies is the decision to get an "accurate" shape instead of easy assembly. that is what we or I want to test the market. Because a lot of customers require an accurate shape, canopy, in which one pc canopy/wind shield cannot capture the omega shape of the windscreen. (thanks to the photo from Dave Roof). However, this test is failed, it seems in the event of this, customer require an easy assembly parts with sufficient accuracy. That's all I can see at this moment. Also, we are not doing a very good job in the cockpit with not-so-experience CAD people. Anyway, that product is disappointing. We are arranging sometimes to make a new mold on the canopy as well as fixing some cockpit tube assembly, wing assembly. We have taken the experience from A-6E into the new wing's EA-6B which is going to be released next month. Hope you enjoy it. As for the price, you may not aware that only a fraction of the price come to the manufacturer, most of them are spending on the transportation, agency fees as well as profit for the supply chain. So, we it is very difficult to make everyone happy in the chain. At the end, it is good for consumer that you have more choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragonlance Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Raymond, this is a bit of damned if you do, damned if you don't. Remember the Mirage 2000D release? Chief complaint - canopy not bulged (not that the Heller kit has the bulged one). For years armor modelers screamed they want link-by-link tracks and spent lavishly on Friul tracks. For the last five years the+ye screaming that link-by-link tracks are too tedious and that they want one piece tracks back. It ebbs and flows. You can't satisfy everyone. I personally prefer accuracy over ease of build, but that's just me. Vedran Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daryl J. Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Thank you Raymond for taking the time to address this group. Persistence and care like that is something I admire. Daryl J., tooth fixer Edited October 14, 2013 by Daryl J. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randypandy831 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I would have to say that your F-5 is one of your better kits IMO. I didn't see any problems with the test fitting of the major fuselage parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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