B.Sin Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 i really like what i'm seeing.. i don't mind paying a higher price for a higher quality product. Word Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pookie Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I just put the Lindberg Mig-31 kit in the trash bin. I kept some parts as spare plastic to experiment with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
playertwo Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 crap, u coulda gave it to me so i could practice my building skills! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlexP Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I can't wait. Have to buy multiples of this beauty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeffreyK Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 That looks really good. I have a question about molding the intakes. Since missiles can be molded as single piece, I was wondering whether same can be done with the intakes. Is is that difficult mold them as single piece? Maybe the whole thing is too much to ask but the front half for example??? You can, not a problem. But you then can only produce one single plastic piece and it will be forever stuck on the steel tool. On a serious note, if the intake isn't a simple straight, featureless and slightly tapered tube, you can't do it with plastic and injection moulding. And even then there are limits to how long the tube can be and the taper (draft angle) that's needed to actually get the inner slide tool out without tearing the plastic. This sort of thing is possible with resin and rubber moulds, but not with plastic and steel tooling unfortunately. But all that aside, this kit is looking extremely good! Jeffrey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SERNAK Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Judging from the latest sprues-photos this looks like another superb kit!!! Oh, I can feel my wallet lighter!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 On a serious note, if the intake isn't a simple straight, featureless and slightly tapered tube...y But quite a few of them is.. :D I understand, Mig-31 intake has many details and is impossible without an elastic mold. But seriously most intakes, I think can be done at least, as I wrote, their front half. Maybe all models should come with resin parts, go eduard. :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erik_g Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Maybe perhaps a new decal option? http://www.janes.com/article/53660/syria-reportedly-receives-mig-31-interceptors-from-russia :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkKnight Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I was shocked to read that the Mig-31 ran mock intercepts on the blackbird a number of time with one allegedly being an intercept from 6 different directions, anyone know if its true? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Maybe perhaps a new decal option? http://www.janes.com/article/53660/syria-reportedly-receives-mig-31-interceptors-from-russia :-) If it is Turkish BGN News, it must be true. :rolleyes:/> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I was shocked to read that the Mig-31 ran mock intercepts on the blackbird a number of time with one allegedly being an intercept from 6 different directions, anyone know if its true? It very likely is. The MiG-31 did overlap the end of the SR's service life by a few years. Before they got Foxhounds in the Far Eastern Military District in the late 1980s, I know (I was there) that the very infrequent SR-71 missions up the east coast of the USSR used to drive them absolutely crazy, and there was nothing they could do about them. All they had was Su-15TMs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vaildog Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I was shocked to read that the Mig-31 ran mock intercepts on the blackbird a number of time with one allegedly being an intercept from 6 different directions, anyone know if its true? Here's a good article from the Aviationist website that talks about how effective MiG-31s were against the SR-71 My link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Some assembly pictures; https://www.facebook.com/avantgardemodelkits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stratospheremodels Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) I can see here they are using Potenza series L.K. Machinery injection machines (LK Shenzhen from Granville Technology Group). These machines also contains some Italian and Japanese parts. A lot of the Chinese machines contain imported components (i noticed that some of them (not L.K.) are mostly made from various imported parts, with mainly the outer casing and some other bits being from China, though i am pretty much sure several Chinese injection presses are also made from mostly made in China components, but they seem to base their advertising on the fact that some key components are made from imported parts). L.K. is a big company but these machines are not their latest models. They are probably dated around the mid to slightly past the mid-2000's first decade. Stephane. Edited August 25, 2015 by Stratospheremodels Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erik_g Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 L.K. is a big company but these machines are not their latest models. They are probably dated around the mid to slightly past the mid-2000's first decade. I suppose it takes a while to amortize machinery like that. Are the ten years younger machines so much better? What would a new machine be able to do, that the older can´t? Judging from the regular updates on the AMK facebook page, it looks like they know how to get good results from the machines they have. At least the molds aren't from 1975.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) Lower fuselage, intake, engine, and wheel bay assembly photos on AMK Face book page. Looks fantastic! The only thing that concerns me is the panel lines look a little heavy. Anyone who has seen the test shots in person, can you confirm or deny this? Edited August 25, 2015 by B.Sin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 There are current generation model kits being made on injection molding machines that were manufactured in the 1960s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Anyone who has seen the test shots in person, can you confirm or deny this? No one outside of AMK has seen them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 No one outside of AMK has seen them. That is not true. Hundreds of people outside of AMK has seen them in person. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Never mind then.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sio Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Some parts were in the Brno Show, Czech. The panel lines are bit wider than Magister, but many modellers said, it is OK, as this one is huge. :D :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Sio, panel lines must be fine, sharp, and petite. Edited August 26, 2015 by B.Sin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sio Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Sio, panel lines must be fine, sharp, and petite. I can't say! Do you have friends from Czech? Maybe, you can ask them about that! :D :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgrease Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 The sprue photos have convinced me to buy one of these when they come out - I wouldn't have ever built one otherwise, but it looks incredible! John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stratospheremodels Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I suppose it takes a while to amortize machinery like that. Are the ten years younger machines so much better? What would a new machine be able to do, that the older can´t? A whole lot. Modern machines are often more compact, can be programmed, are a lot more economical in terms of energy cost (at least several models), some are entirely electric, and they can have very fast cycle rates. Stephane Stratosphere Models Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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