catfan Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 so i have one of the p-51b/c kits that's in 1/48 scale and this is a recent kit because it came out in 2000 and it gives u a standard canopy or a Malcolm canopy. so i am working on the interior. and i am wondering what color on the left and right sides of the cockpit parts would be like. on the right side there are a lot of boxes and also the hydraulic hand pump and on the left there looks to be a lot of knobs and the landing rear leaver. and i get confused because a lot of war birds of that type of plane seem to paint every knob red Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randypandy831 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 google a photo of the mustang cockpit. that will be your best bet on color call outs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 its funny i tried that and all i get are pictures of the p-51d cockpit. even though i clearly put p-51b/c cockpit o the kit i am building is revell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B-17 guy Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Worked for me... https://www.google.com/search?q=p-51b%2Fc%20cockpit&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.&bvm=bv.53217764,d.aWc,pv.xjs.s.en_US.6PYzwk9faGo.O&biw=1152&bih=690&dpr=1&wrapid=tlif138056432182811&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=UL1JUq-pIcXI2wXwvIHwDA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnl42 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Just be aware of what you looking at when you find that perfect cockpit photo. If it's a contemporaneous photo, there could be variations in the color due to process and time. If it's a modern photo, the aircraft has been restored and could be inaccurate. Hey, 1:1 hobbiests get it wrong too! :) The Interior Colours of US Aircraft, 1941-45 article from IPMS Stockholm is a Really Good reference to bookmark. The link points to Part 1, which discusses the colors per-se; Part 2 focuses on USAAF aircraft (the P-51 is about 75% down the page), while Part 3 is about USN aircraft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B-17 guy Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Just be aware of what you looking at when you find that perfect cockpit photo. If it's a contemporaneous photo, there could be variations in the color due to process and time. If it's a modern photo, the aircraft has been restored and could be inaccurate. Hey, 1:1 hobbiests get it wrong too! :)/> The Interior Colours of US Aircraft, 1941-45 article from IPMS Stockholm is a Really Good reference to bookmark. The link points to Part 1, which discusses the colors per-se; Part 2 focuses on USAAF aircraft (the P-51 is about 75% down the page), while Part 3 is about USN aircraft. Sorry, but, take the info in the IPMS stockholm links with a grain of salt. I cant verify how much info is inaccurate but I can tell you that there is incorrect info there. I can say that most of the info listed for the B-17 is incorrect. And can someone tell me exactly what part of a B-17 that is in the second pic (second link, B-17 section)? The caption say for the pic says that it is the tail of a B-17F at the Douglas factory in long beach. Sure does not look like a B-17 to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tourist Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 B-17 Guy is correct, the P-51 info on IPMS Stockholm is mostly worthless. You're better off with the Google images, some equipment may vary from what it was in WWII but the colors on these restorations remained mostly the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
playdoh Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 This is a link to a restored P-51C but I think the colors are pretty accurate. It's a hi-res 360degree virtual tour that can be fun to play with. The plane has been converted to a two seater so the back of the cockpit wont give you much help but the rest is pretty good. http://www.stclairphoto-imaging.com/360/P51-Mustang/P51_swf.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peter havriluk Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 If you're still looking for P-51B/C interiors, go take a look at what Fantasy of Flight has on the Mustang that was restored to Tuskegee Airmen decorations. Kermit Weeks is a stickler for authenticity, and if nothing else, you would have contemporary digital pictures to use for reference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tourist Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 This is a link to a restored P-51C but I think the colors are pretty accurate. It's a hi-res 360degree virtual tour that can be fun to play with. The plane has been converted to a two seater so the back of the cockpit wont give you much help but the rest is pretty good. http://www.stclairphoto-imaging.com/360/P51-Mustang/P51_swf.html The wooden parts on the floor should be painted black, beyond that it's overall pretty good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin_sam_2000 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 And can someone tell me exactly what part of a B-17 that is in the second pic (second link, B-17 section)? The caption say for the pic says that it is the tail of a B-17F at the Douglas factory in long beach. Sure does not look like a B-17 to me. sprry to go of ftopic here, but are you refering to this picture: cause if so you are looking more or less from the radio room aft. But the rear fusealge is most likely seperated from the forward half. Here is the closes I could find to a complete section from the same angle: Sean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B-17 guy Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 No no, not that pic, the second pic. This one, Caption from the pics reads: " Another photo of a tail of a camouflaged B-17F Flying Fortress at the Douglas factory in Long Beach. The fuselage construction illuminated by flash behind the workes' heads shows that there were at least two different colours of primer used. Another mystery." This is a B-17 tail? I think not. This is a B-17 tail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PFlint Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 could that be a Consolidated Catalina ??? @ B-17 guy ...that is an awesome photo. is this aircraft now done? what does she look like ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 That may well be a B-17, but if it is it's a B-17D or earlier. As for "two colors of primer" - well, it's a 75 year old photograph of unknown provenance, shot on who knows what kind of film with who knows what kind of lighting, reproduced on the web. Making any kind of color pronouncement based on that is pretty iffy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 ok so back to the mustang question. i did finally find the part that shows what i need for the left and right side walls of the plane but there is this one part the hydraulic hand pump. now in the kit they say paint it in a metal color i could see that on a war bird from now but during WW2 would it be the same color as the cockpit and would the little knob be red Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tourist Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 On period pictures you can see the hydraulic hand pump being Aluminum or Interior Green with a Red knob, your choice. I would think the aluminum hand pump was seen on the early P-51B's and got painted later during production. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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