Alpagueur Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) As there are only frontal pictures of the Contact Resine wheels, I'm not sure which type of tyre they actually depict - the original narrow, the wide ((T)F-104G) or the even wider type (late F-104G and F-104S)...? All three variants utilized the spoked wheel hub. you're right Jeffrey... unfortunately I can't find any side pictures of the CR wheels :( and since the set is only one, or it has the narrow tires or those wider... here's another picture, but same thing... I can not see the thickness of the tires: Edited December 7, 2013 by Alpagueur Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpagueur Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 It is all a matter of proportions Dave, if you can live with them don't warry! I'm posting here some more photo references for you: good pics Paolo, thanks for sharing! is it an urban legend that the S version had the air intakes slightly wider than the G version? regards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Paolo, are you sure those wheels in your photo are with the wide type tyres? Yes indeed! My photo shows the tyre of F-104S-ASA-M, the last variant, there is no way it could have the narrow type wheels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 good pics Paolo, thanks for sharing! is it an urban legend that the S version had the air intakes slightly wider than the G version? regards Yes, it was written in a book by Nico Sgarlato around 1978 and copied by several authors since then. Dimensions were exactly the same, differences were on the auxiliary air intake and by the fact the interior of the air intakes of the S was made in steel instead of aluminium. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpagueur Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 ciao Paolo, thanks for the info... anyway I checked a Nico Sgarlato's book (Delta Publishing) and it speaks of a slight enlargement (and 23mm backwarding), but still present... concerning the Contact Resine tyres, if they are OK for the S version then they are automatically wrong for the G version (the label on the bag says only F-104 and not G rather than S) regards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 ciao Paolo, thanks for the info... anyway I checked a Nico Sgarlato's book (Delta Publishing) and it speaks of a slight enlargement (and 23mm backwarding), but still present... As I said Sgarlato is the one to blame for this WRONG legend. I spent a full day measuring one and it was EXAcTLY the same as G model in dimensions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpagueur Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) As I said Sgarlato is the one to blame for this WRONG legend. I spent a full day measuring one and it was EXAcTLY the same as G model in dimensions. OK where can I find photos of the "box" behind the electronic compartment of the S/CI version? Unfortunately the Daco book shows only the ammunition box of the G (and I suppose S/CB) version... but the CIO do not have the gun so I do not know what's in there instead of the ammunition drum :unsure: thanks again. Luca Edited December 8, 2013 by Alpagueur Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 There is also the legend in the Verlinden Lock-on that the rear fuselage on the -S was fatter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 There is also the legend in the Verlinden Lock-on that the rear fuselage on the -S was fatter. Yes! Another fun story! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 OK :thumbsup:/> where can I find photos of the "box" behind the electronic compartment of the S/CI version? Unfortunately the Daco book shows only the ammunition box of the G (and I suppose S/CB) version... but the CIO do not have the gun so I do not know what's in there instead of the ammunition drum :unsure:/> thanks again. Luca On the CI variant the back of computer bay was usually filled with an internal fuel tank as the one made in the 48 scale DACO set but when the aircraft was coming back from a deployment the fuel tank was quite often removed and the space fille dwith cheeses, vines, beers. Carlos Primeros, champagne and other grocery Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onosendai Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 but when the aircraft was coming back from a deployment the fuel tank was quite often removed and the space fille dwith cheeses, vines, beers. Carlos Primeros, champagne and other grocery I saw one in Cameri in the 80s full of stereo equipment from Germany .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I saw one in Cameri in the 80s full of stereo equipment from Germany .... In that cas ethe pilot was sated! :D ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpagueur Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) Hello Paolo, thanks for the photos and congratulations for your S/CI (I like very much the air intakes covers... did you scratchbuild them?) with all those opened bays it really looks good :woot.gif:/> I'd like to make one just like that I'd like to purchase that 1/48 Daco set... what's its item-code? regards Edited December 9, 2013 by Alpagueur Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Hello Paolo, thanks for the photos and congratulations for your S/CI (I like very much the air intakes covers... did you scratchbuild them?) with all those opened bays it really looks good :woot.gif:/> I'd like to make one just like that I'd like to purchase that 1/48 Daco set... what's his item-code? regards The intakes come with the set, currently it is out of stock, sorry, production run will re-start in March, directly from DACO Productions web page, no given code so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coneheadff Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Restart in March?!?!?! Whyyyyyyy? I thought Danny sold the first production sets and is awaiting the main delivery now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onosendai Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I was able to get one of the four DACO set still remained on Ebay, a truly impressive work, highly recommended........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coneheadff Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I was able to get one of the four DACO set still remained on Ebay, a truly impressive work, highly recommended........... I can't find the sets on ebay :blink: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpagueur Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I can't find the sets on ebay :blink:/> me, too... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onosendai Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I can't find the sets on ebay :blink:/> Of course, there were only 4 remaining sets from the sales of Telford, until next spring there will be the final production. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Restart in March?!?!?! Whyyyyyyy? I thought Danny sold the first production sets and is awaiting the main delivery now? I guess because it will took some times to produce a full container of sets and ship it from China.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coneheadff Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I guess because it will took some times to produce a full container of sets and ship it from China.... OK, that makes sense ;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) Now back at Italeri offering: low viz Italian roundels should be 9.39 mm in 1/32 scale, those in the kit are 15,00 mm to big by 1/3!!! the real thing Speaking of ejection chute for fired ammunition: all Italian bombers were quite early modified to keep the spent cartridge inside so the ejection chute was closed with a flat panel on all italian F-104G/S/ASA/ASA-M regarderless to the fact that they kept the Vulcan or not. Edited December 11, 2013 by Paolo Maglio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpagueur Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) the white shield on the tail seems a bit too big... Edited December 11, 2013 by Alpagueur Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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