rustywelder Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) Hey folks, Hoping the Mirage experts among us can help here. If one wanted to do a Mirage V COAM this guy here. Am I way off base in the thinking that the new High planes/PJ productions mirage kits should have mostof the parts needed for one? I am certain I'll need to scratch an ifr probe. SPRUE PICS HERE Cheers! Edited October 17, 2013 by rustywelder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niki4703 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Hi Rusty, In the IAI Finger boxing of High Planes' Mirage series there is a short guide to building South American operated examples and specific parts usage. For the M5 COAM it says: Nose - [parts] C8, C11, C12 Fin - A25 Main doors - A3, A4 Belly tank - A17 Canard - B9, B10 Pitot - C19 Intake - A16, A21 Wind shield - D3 As for the Air-to-Air refueling probe, there was something out of resin in the Cheetah D kit available...(!?) Cheers, Niki Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rustywelder Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Thanks Much Niki! Guess I'll be picking up the IAI finger boxing. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niki4703 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 You're welcome! Now that you know what parts it takes you could actually buy whatever boxing you find cheapest, since all of them (High Planes and PJ) contain the same plastic sprues Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Eagle Designs do several update sets in 1/48 for various upgraded Mirage III's, and they will even mix and match the sets if required. These are for use on the Heller kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tobiK Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 It s almost a Kfir, and you can build a Colombian Kfir out of Wingmanmodel's kit. ...but when you really want a Mirage V !?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rustywelder Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Thanks for the suggestions tobik and scott. I didnt know eagle designs was still trading, thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Barr Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Niki Is the list you mentioned only in the Finger kit or is it included in the Dagger or Nesher ones? (I have them on order) Thanks Jim Barr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rustywelder Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Hey Jim, Where did you order your mirages from? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Barr Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 West Coast Hobbys in Canada, they just ended a 20% off sale Link Regards Jim Barr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niki4703 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Hi Jim, Sorry for the late reply! Unfortunately the list is only to be found - as far as I know - in the IAI Finger boxing. A good couple of months back I had the opportunity to buy the Dagger or Nesher at a good discount but did go for the Finger instead just for getting my hands on that guide. Of course, a bit of guess work would have probably sufficed, but I thought the guide would provide some additional interesting information. Not exactly the case, as you can see from the example above to what it all comes down to in the end. If you guys think listing the specific part numbers for each South-American version would help you out, I shall do it here. It'll only take ten minutes or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dagger00 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Aztec made in 1/48 a set for the chilean Mirage Pantera wich is almost identical to the Colombian Air force Mirage 5 COAM, Aztec also have a set for the colombian Mirage 5 COAM decals, wich are fantastic...HTH Juan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rustywelder Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 Hi Jim, Sorry for the late reply! Unfortunately the list is only to be found - as far as I know - in the IAI Finger boxing. A good couple of months back I had the opportunity to buy the Dagger or Nesher at a good discount but did go for the Finger instead just for getting my hands on that guide. Of course, a bit of guess work would have probably sufficed, but I thought the guide would provide some additional interesting information. Not exactly the case, as you can see from the example above to what it all comes down to in the end. If you guys think listing the specific part numbers for each South-American version would help you out, I shall do it here. It'll only take ten minutes or so. Hey Niki! I would greatly appreciate it if you could put that list up. Cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolf_el_Real Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 In 1/48 you can use the Esci/Italeri Mirage V boxing y adding resin (chilean set) and some scratch to make it, check this one of myself : http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/rh/articles.php?id=17583 Regards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niki4703 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Hi Rusty, Sorry, late again, but here they are, the kit's instructions on South American Mirages: High Planes Mirages 1/2 High Planes Mirages 2/2 Cheers, Niki Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dagger00 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Hi Rusty, Sorry, late again, but here they are, the kit's instructions on South American Mirages: High Planes Mirages 1/2 High Planes Mirages 2/2 Cheers, Niki :wave:/> The profile drawing of the argentine Mirage 5 Mara is incorrect, the Mara has the IAI Dagger nose, plus the extension at the base of the fin leading edge (like the M-IIIEA, IAI Dagger and IAI Finger). Best, Juan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niki4703 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) Yes, they "chopped" the fin extension, but apparently got the part number right so it should be all fine in the end. As for the nose, do you mean it should be the same one as shown for the 5COAM? Edited October 29, 2013 by niki4703 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Mara: Nesher/Dagger nose with RWR antenna on either sides of the front http://www.cavok-aviation-photos.net/Argentina/Mara.jpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niki4703 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Thank you! But related to the plastic bits available in the High Planes/ PJ kits, does this mean that the C5 & C6 parts - as instructed for use - are inappropriate?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 does this mean that the C5 & C6 parts - as instructed for use - are inappropriate?! No. They're fine but you'll have to sand out the nose tip a little (too pointy for a "Nesher nose") and scratchbuild the RWR antennas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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niki4703 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hi guys, I dare to dig this one up because here is where we had a bit of a question-and-answer session regarding the specific plastic bits found in the High Planes/ PJ Mirage boxes... So, these boxes contain two separate aft fuselage pieces: a short one [C9] and a long one [C8]. See them above the clear sprue, to the right of the Pitot tube, next to one another, with C8 broken from the sprue: Why the two different options? From the High Planes boxes (I have the IAI Finger one in front of me) I see that only the short aft fuselage [C9] is to be used on the Latin American Mirages. What is the longer aft fuselage intended for? Many thanks! Niki P.S.: posted this also on another forum, but didn't get a reply... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Barr Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 As High Planes is working on the IIIC versions now, I would bet that is when it will be used. Regards Jim Barr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petarvu Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 As High Planes is working on the IIIC versions now, I would bet that is when it will be used. Regards Jim Barr Any word on their 1/48 plans? Cheers P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
farmerboy Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I built a Mirage 5 COAM using the High Planes Dagger.....it doesn't include the list for various LA Mirages like the Finger and when I found the list later there were some discrepancies. Just use the small plug between the nose and the fuselage, can't remember the part number but I think it's C10. HPM models sells the refueling probe separately. Unfortunately the Aztec decals for the COAM is sold out and hard to find. It is on the "Amazonia Mirages " sheet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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