Les / Creative Edge Photo Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Your welcome, slave. You'll be waiting a Hell of a long time for my bended knee. Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 You'll be waiting a Hell of a long time for my bended knee. Your thanks was all I needed, Your welcome BTW. Link to post Share on other sites
Les / Creative Edge Photo Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Your thanks was all I needed, Your welcome BTW. No gratitude for you, for you hardly deserve it. Edited December 2, 2013 by Les / Creative Edge Photo Link to post Share on other sites
streetstream Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 So you hate both Europeans and Americans. What does that mean? That it justifies your hatred for Ameticans since you hate Europeans as well. That you're just too cool for any of them? Yes, that's litteraly what i wrote. Please quote me where i said i hate both americans and Europeans. What i stated is that every influential nation in the world makes mistakes. Yet you don't see me saying things like The people of the US have been a beacon of hope, freedom, industry, charity, ingenuity, faith, and many other things for 200+ years And i don't verbaly attack someone when they claim that a citizin of my country boasted a story. I also don't demand respect because of valiant actions performed by older generations who happend to share my nationality. I only voiced on personal opion, which as a citizin of a country that prides itself on freedom of speech you should appreciate. You don't have to agree with me, but as far as i know, disbelieving a story doesn't constitute insulting an whole nation which some of you claim i did, now does it? So yes, if confronted by such people i will rise to confrontation. Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) No gratitude for you, for you hardly deserve it. Oh? did you have a good look at my military service from inside your comfortable home? Where were you again while I was serving? Are you one of the Canadians I served with that can speak first hand about my service? AS you rant about people having respect for whats important while leading selfish lives I find this post very interesting, Les. Nothing childish in thanking all those who serve unless you don't like them on internet. Your Welcome Les. Thank you for the thanks Edited December 2, 2013 by TaiidanTomcat Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) My point is that the USA played its obvious major role in the outcome of WWII but it sure the Hell did not win it on its own and anyone who claims such deserves a swift knock across their dough filled head by some crotchety, aged Brit, Soviet, Canadian or other allied vet of WWII using likely his cane to knock some sense and reality into any person who'd be so damn arrogant to think the USA did it all and all on its own. I've grown a mild disdain for Americans who slammed France for their unwillingness to fight in Iraq again. They did join my country in Afghanistan, and I appreciate the overall NATO effort there, especially as many NATO countries have been hit by Al Qaeda. But if there is any country which deserves to have its noodle rung out and left to dry over inaccurate claims regarding victory in WWII, it is Russia. Russia claims the US did nada to help the Soviet victory over the Axis, and that victory would have come regardless. This is deep-rooted everywhere except reality, for if it wasn't Stalin wouldn't have begged for many other European fronts. Not only that, but the Soviets did little in terms of defeating the Asian Axis powers in the big picture. Stalin sweated bullets in anticipation of war with Japan. And overall, Europe, and Asia NEEDED the United States to win this war with them. Notice I said WITH them. Without American material, the Commonwealth would have collapsed under Japan, and had nothing to offer against Germany. Russia would have settled at the Volga and never become a super-power. I don't know where you must live to develop such a bias, but we're not your enemies. We're just available whenever you need us. And we're proud to serve the needs of Democracies against facism, oligarchies, mafiacracies, and religious fundamentalists. Edited December 2, 2013 by Exhausted Link to post Share on other sites
ALF18 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Nice! Is that from a future Mythbusters episode where they will explore the myth about taking off from moving aircraft carriers without a catapult? ALF Link to post Share on other sites
Les / Creative Edge Photo Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Oh? did you have a good look at my military service from inside your comfortable home? Where were you again while I was serving? Are you one of the Canadians I served with that can speak first hand about my service? AS you rant about people having respect for whats important while leading selfish lives I find this post very interesting, Les. Nothing childish in thanking all those who serve unless you don't like them on internet. Your Welcome Les. Thank you for the thanks Your problem here is your lack of respect and general immature posting all too often. Add a superiority complex you show to have and as such a search for some gratitude, well if you are going to come here and act like an a$$hole you can throw out any such hopes for said gratitude. If you act more like an intelligent, mature adult and by all means even discus and debate issues at hand well guess what? You may very well get respect from me. Coming off as a cocky a$$hloe on an informal internet forum gains you no such respect. Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Cartwright Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Wondering what happened to all fuel tanks jettisoned by U.S. fighter jets over Southeast Asia during Vietnam War? Here's what happened to some of them: http://theaviationist.com/2013/09/18/fuel-tanks-se-asia/ Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Wondering what happened to all fuel tanks jettisoned by U.S. fighter jets over Southeast Asia during Vietnam War? Here's what happened to some of them: http://theaviationist.com/2013/09/18/fuel-tanks-se-asia/ "When life gives you lemons ..." -Gregg Link to post Share on other sites
Les / Creative Edge Photo Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) I've grown a mild disdain for Americans who slammed France for their unwillingness to fight in Iraq again. They did join my country in Afghanistan, and I appreciate the overall NATO effort there, especially as many NATO countries have been hit by Al Qaeda. But if there is any country which deserves to have its noodle rung out and left to dry over inaccurate claims regarding victory in WWII, it is Russia. Russia claims the US did nada to help the Soviet victory over the Axis, and that victory would have come regardless. This is deep-rooted everywhere except reality, for if it wasn't Stalin wouldn't have begged for many other European fronts. Not only that, but the Soviets did little in terms of defeating the Asian Axis powers in the big picture. Stalin sweated bullets in anticipation of war with Japan. And overall, Europe, and Asia NEEDED the United States to win this war with them. Notice I said WITH them. Without American material, the Commonwealth would have collapsed under Japan, and had nothing to offer against Germany. Russia would have settled at the Volga and never become a super-power. I don't know where you must live to develop such a bias, but we're not your enemies. We're just available whenever you need us. And we're proud to serve the needs of Democracies against facism, oligarchies, mafiacracies, and religious fundamentalists. What bias??? Fact is we have no evidence to support the failing of the Commonwealth and the USSR had the USA not entered the war. It's all just conjecture. Fact is had Britain fallen the USA likely would not have entered the European war as she had little way to moved man and material across the Atlantic to what would have been a conquered continent to then invade and support a prolonged war in Europe. Don't forget many in US industry and banking were avid supporters and wheeler and dealers of Hitler in the 30's. The USA would likely have fought only in the Pacific vs the Japanese. The USSR would have carried on a war of attrition in Europe and over time have won over Germany for the USSR had all the resources it needed and a larger more motivated population to fight with. Japan was little real threat to the USSR as her sheer size, geography and climate would have bogged down what was in reality very small expeditionary army in Japan. China as brutal as Japan was on it held many divisions of Japanese down based on its own size. Japan's victories came mostly by her navy and with enough troops to quell mostly smaller and former French/British colonial nations who had little indigenous armies and ability to fight Japan with. The USSR and mostly its Siberian armies defeated the Japanese in Manchuria. I understand how decades of the US school system and many in its media over the years have indoctrinated many growing up in the USA to believe it was the reason and generally the only reason why WWII was won by the allies. I get it, jingoism lives, but saying such does not make it so. So no I have no bias, but I do want to better know and see what really was when we look at WWII. I am not going to just allow the US and more so many of its people now two generations removed and by such the never served, lived nor fought in WWII claim unilateral victory. I KNOW BETTER and that its victory was a combined, sustained, supreme effort by all the allies and those who fought with and aided the Allies. Edited December 2, 2013 by Les / Creative Edge Photo Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Wondering what happened to all fuel tanks jettisoned by U.S. fighter jets over Southeast Asia during Vietnam War? Here's what happened to some of them: http://theaviationist.com/2013/09/18/fuel-tanks-se-asia/ As both a kayaker, rower and an aviation enthusiast, I have to say that that's a damn clever idea and I would totally look into converting an old drop tank into a canoe/boat if I had access to one. I am curious though, as to what keeps the hull stable in the water, what keeps the boat from rolling to one side. Edited December 2, 2013 by Trigger Link to post Share on other sites
Waco Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Coming off as a cocky a$$hloe on an informal internet forum gains you no such respect. Link to post Share on other sites
Les / Creative Edge Photo Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) I certainly was not being a a$$hle but I was calling out Taiiden for being one towards me. Please if you think so, can you post where I was being an a$$hole on this thread? My posts only stood up for facts that not one nation can claim victory in WWII but fact is many nations including the larger ones came together to fight what was seen as a just cause. None of these nations efforts need play second fiddle or be buried on history book's back page. As a result of WWII the nation that benefited most by it was the USA, there is no argument in that. Then followed by the USSR and its growth and influence from the war. Other nations fell into place as time post WWII passed. Oddly enough as victor the nation that lost the most was Britain. Many note Japan and Germany as losers both in time came out better than Britain. Edited December 2, 2013 by Les / Creative Edge Photo Link to post Share on other sites
ghatherly Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I certainly was not being a a$hle but I was calling out Taiiden for being one towards me. Please if you think so, can you post where I was being an a$hole on this thread? My posts only stood up for facts that not one nation can claim victory in WWII but fact is many nations including the larger ones came together to fight what was seen as a just cause. None of these nations efforts need play second fiddle or be buried on history book's back page. As a result of WWII the nation that benefited most by it was the USA, there is no argument in that. Then followed by the USSR and its growth and influence from the war. Other nations fell into place as time post WWII passed. Oddly enough as victor the nation that lost the most was Britain. Many note Japan and Germany as losers both in time came out better than Britain. And this sound advice from a man who is a legend in his own mind. One thing is for sure, you and SS are proof that liberalism is a mental disorder. This is not fun any more as I am not smart enough to play with such intellectuals as these two. Everyone have a great evening! Link to post Share on other sites
Fly-n-hi Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) What i stated is that every influential nation in the world makes mistakes. Yet you don't see me saying things like The people of the US have been a beacon of hope, freedom, industry, charity, ingenuity, faith, and many other things for 200+ years. With all due respect, Sir, the reason you don't say this is because you can't say this.I was never implying that Americans are better or morally superior. What I am saying is that you need to differentiate the difference between a people and their government. The American people have been an undeniable blessing to the world. Period. Why? I'm not sure. I would guess that it has to do with America's Judeo/Christian foundation. But clearly that foundation has been compromised and something terrible is happening in the US as we are all witnessing now. When you say that America is causing chaos around the world you essentially blame all Americans for it. That's ridiculous. If you want to say that America's government is causing chaos then you would be very correct...but also a hypocrite. It makes you a hypocrite because the governments of Europe collectively have have been carving up, imperializing, enslaving and dominating the word since 300 BC. As far as government atrocity goes the US government is in the minor leagues compared to European governments...especially considering that hundreds of millions of people have died or suffered at the hands of European governments in the last 2500 years. Unfortunately the US government has decided to embrace European style government and ignore the Constitution, not just in foreign policy but domestically as well, and the results speak for themselves. Edited December 3, 2013 by Fly-n-hi Link to post Share on other sites
Waco Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I certainly was not being a a$hle but I was calling out Taiiden for being one towards me. Please if you think so, can you post where I was being an a$hole on this thread? Is...is this a trick question? Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 What the....how do they keep the boat stable? TELL ME YOUR SECRETS!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Waco Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 What the....how do they keep the boat stable? TELL ME YOUR SECRETS!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Talk about blast from the past. That one was made literally hours after first flight. Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) One thing is for sure, you and SS are proof that liberalism is a mental disorder. I take exception to such comments. My belief in liberalism, and America in general, are the reasons why I participate in the American system, and why I feel no shame for having served in its Marine Corps. I'll stand up for America every day of the week against anything and everything, but I won't be silent when I see comments against a very important building block of our lifestyles. Edited December 3, 2013 by Exhausted Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 What, like magnets? Link to post Share on other sites
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