Jennings Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 So it's not just the shape of the lip, the entire lower surface from about the main gear, sweeping up to the bottom of the intake lip is wrong. Typical Trumpeter. You'll need $200 worth of resin to replace the stupid errors that they should (and could) easily have avoided in the first place. I'll re-scribe my Monogram kit, thanks. Those losers won't be getting my money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dehowie Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 You may want to get your contacts checked Jennings if you think the Monogram intakes look anything more like 106 intakes than the Trumpeter ones. One good thing about Trumpeter releases is it does turn the blow torch on the Monogram kits we thought that where"oh so perfect". Yet a quick close look shows them just as flawed. They are still good kits and have several in my collection but please keep it real. "Those losers wont get any if my money"? Lol. The only "loser" will be the one spending 9 hours rescribing a kit with less detail...hours filling gaps modern tooling eliminates..and then thinking they are somehow better off because those Chicoms wont get my dollars. Build your 106 because its a nice kit but at least look at it realistically. Oh sorry we are talking about a Chinese manufacturer...lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mlicari Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 You may want to get your contacts checked Jennings if you think the Monogram intakes look anything more like 106 intakes than the Trumpeter ones. One good thing about Trumpeter releases is it does turn the blow torch on the Monogram kits we thought that where"oh so perfect". Yet a quick close look shows them just as flawed. They are still good kits and have several in my collection but please keep it real. "Those losers wont get any if my money"? Lol. The only "loser" will be the one spending 9 hours rescribing a kit with less detail...hours filling gaps modern tooling eliminates..and then thinking they are somehow better off because those Chicoms wont get my dollars. Build your 106 because its a nice kit but at least look at it realistically. Oh sorry we are talking about a Chinese manufacturer...lol. I guess my issue is that I could get a flawed Monogram kit for 1/3 the price of a flawed Trumpeter kit. For me, since Trumpeter represents no improvement in overall accuracy, it's hardly worth the added cost. And I'm perfectly happy spending some time on a kit that might not fit perfectly (frankly, Trumpeter kits have their own challenges in this department). In the end, in my judgement, Trumpeter kits just do not represent any increase in value over the earlier Monogram kits, and in some cases are a decided step backwards (F-100). If the Trumpeter kits were priced competitively with the Monogram kits, then that would be different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Like I was saying, the Monogram intakes actually look pretty good, shape-wise. My photos don't show it comparing well with the pic of the real jet, I think due to the angle of my photos. Monogram's intake lips do need to be thinned a little, something I didn't do on mine all those years ago, which makes them look off. I think replacement intake parts for the Trumpeter kit would only need to go back to somewhere near the rescue arrow decal, just aft of the wing leading edge, to blend in and fix the shape error. That area from the lower outboard edge of the intake to the splitter plate seems to be the only area that needs tweaking. Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon50EX Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I agree with dehowie on this. The Monogram lips look a little thick. OK on a supermodel, not so hot on a jet fighter. That being said, the Trumpeter intake lips look about the same to me. I don't think the difference between the two is so drastic. And i can also testify its gonna take longer than 9 hours to re scribe a Monograms F-106. Everything is more or less smooth sailing til you notice the asymmetries on the vertical fin panel lines, and then you get to the rectangular access plates on the wing undersides.....BAMMO. Some specialized scribing templates, interchangeable left to right, are called for here. One thing that is worth mentioning is, at the prices Stevens International is charging for these kits i agree that they're hard to justify on price. However, my Taiwanese students have airlined HobbyBoss and Trumpeter kits back to the states and the prices are a Lot more reasonable. david Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phasephantomphixer Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I will get the Trumpeter two seater as it is a two seater, even though I have a conversion for one of my several Monogram kits. As far as intakes, I would rather thin out Monogram's than to try restructure those Trumpeter disasters. And not adding in rescribing to the comparison since I paint, weather, then sand away the raised detail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seawinder Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I think we may not be able to see the true extent of Trumpeter's success or failure with the intake shape until we have a head-on view of the fuselage like the one of the Monogram kit posted above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 The kit just appeared on Ebay for the first time (I have had an alert set up two months ago) about an hour ago - it is available from a US seller. http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUMPETER-1-48-F-106A-DELTA-DART-JET-FIGHTER-MODEL-KIT-2891-/261590854610 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkmouth Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Mine still looks good but maybe that is because it was in a box all nice and dark all these years. Now you have me worried about it falling apart but the only way I will figure that out is to try it. I just bought the sheet directly from Bare Metal and it looks good. The same markings are available from Aeromaster but they are OOP and over priced on eBay. Regards, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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