phantom Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) This is the official Bad boys (aggressors and adversaries) group build. The mods are, Pete, Neo and myself (phantom). The rules are.........Beginning on Jan 1- 2014 ending July 1 2014 Its a group build, have fun and build something. That something is a aggressor adversary airframe of which there is some photographic evidence somewhere. The airframe must have been used against friendly forces in the training world. In other words , a BF-109 in German markings shooting up a Spitfire would NOT be part of this group build. However Jesters A-4 Skyhawk against Mavericks F-14 Tomcat WOULD be part of this group build. It might have been a movie but the airframes were painted for real for the REAL squadron. So, build the colourful exotic marked Skyhawk. (not Mavericks Tomcat). The airframe you chose must have the colourful neat markings, NOT standard squadron markings. Now, having said that.......... Special paint at the squadron level over the regular markings WOULD be good. Examples of this. Big red or blue ACM panels such as used on Canadian Voodoos of 416 squadron back in the 80s would be good. Temporary poster paint mopped over the airframe, VF-31 and VF-24 did this with Tomcats in the 80s at Fallon for exercises. CF-104s of 417 squadron used to do this all the time for Maple flag exercises. 441 squadron Canadian Hornets received yellow and red bort numbers with a big maple leaf, or a orange disk for some Maple Flag exercises. These would be acceptable. 419 Squadron CF-5s WITH bort numbers are acceptable. Permanent paint such as Topgun markings or USAF WA bad guy , or AK moo-cow markings, would be good. Another type that is good. Have Donut airframes or the like. Mig -17 tested in the states WITH US markings DID train tactics so yes its good. German Mig-29s with the West German cross DID train at Maple flag and other exercises. However when they had the East German markings they were standard airframes and therefore not expectable for this GB. Hopefully this logical but if you have questions ask here. Standard GB rules apply. Ideally your kit should be unbuilt from the box. However if you show photo evidence that the kit you intend to use is barely started (no further then the cockpit) you should be good to go. You need to have photo proof of your build, From start to finish a few shots to prove the build happened and then a couple shots of the finished product to qualify for a sponsors prize. In other words, start a thread in the group build page. Only COMPLETED kits with photo proof will be considered for a sponsor prize. Any scale is accepted , but put some effort into it. A 1/350 scale that was finished in 3 minutes is not sporting. Also, we have LOTS of great sponsors for this Group build. As of December 28 2013 the sponsors include Furball, Fightertown, Hi-decal, Steel Beach and RB productions. Please check out their web sites and buy some of their products to help with your bad guy choices. I will add a What I intend to build page, for ........what you intend to build. Edited December 27, 2013 by phantom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kingoalie Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Would aircraft that participated in exercises like Best Focus (a recce exercise) or the NATO Tactical Air Meets (TAMs) that had some sort of special marking applied be eligible? Here's an example of one that I'm thinking of, an RF-4E from the German Air Force at the Best Focus '82: BESTFOCUS 82 RF-4E Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Technically, yes. Those special markings are there. Small as they may be and available in decals form from Airdoc I believe. The GB is geared more to the air to air side, But that would fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
f5guy Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Hey guys, I've never done one of these group builds before, but am interested in jumping in on this one. I'm thinking of doing a 72nd scale Hobbyboss EA-7L in VAQ-34 markings. Would that be considered an aggressor? If not, I'll join the AFV armada and build an F-5E or F. Also, I don't have any way of posting pics, so how to get around that? Thanks, Fred K. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 VAQ-34 was an adversary squadron , electronic warfare. So yep. Not the most colourful build out there but its also one I "might" do in 1/48 near the end of the GB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Posting pics is all explained here. As to where to sign up officially, you can do that here. Welcome aboard! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) Are What ifs that are clearly aggressors acceptable? An F-14 in this scheme for example: Edited February 14, 2014 by TaiidanTomcat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Has to be real. Some proof somewhere that it existed. Two Bobs did a a sheet re done at least 3 times in a scheme rather close to your what if idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Some of our sponsors have confirmed numbers, check out the prize list!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hajo L. Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I have a question. I have decals for the F-16 86-0269, showing the bird in the new Aggresor-outfit at Nellis. However, I would prefer to paint it in a sand/brown/green-camoflage. My research so far turned up pictures of 0269 in a sand/brown-outfit. Would a be OK to make it a three-colored bird in sand/brown/green or do I automatically violate the rules of this GB in that moment? HAJO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 If you have a good idea of the real paint scheme using those decals use them. 269 has had MANY different paint schemes over the years. Those decals would no doubt work on most of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hajo L. Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Great, thanks! HAJO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike C Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Stupid question: How do I get the banner? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neo Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 You can right click on the banner in my sig and copy image url. Then apply it between img tags Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Looks like we might have another sponsor soon.......... Start building and finishing those planes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hajo L. Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 It's never too soon for "Bad Boys" to learn how it goes: "The best of the best!" ;) HAJO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ILuvMigs Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) pm sent Edited March 12, 2014 by ILuvMigs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 pm replied too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 Around 6 weeks left in the Group build. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike C Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 *GASP* PANIC! PANIC! PANIC! Not even half way thru painting my camo yet!!! AAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 No need to panic. Its 6 weeks. Time to start a new one if you can. I still want to get a Skyhawk in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 Time to get them moving. Little less then 3 weeks left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 Lots of prizes up for completed models folks, check out my banner and the Bad Boys "official page" for prize run-down. Check out the companies and check out their web sites. MOST OF ALL GO BUY SOME OF THEIR PRODUCTS> Thanks again to our sponsors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 Little over one week left. Get em' done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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