catfan Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 so i have a idea on useing arcyilc enamel real auto paint to do my model cars i have i have medium reducer to thin it. but has any body hear done this before?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sluggo2u Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I've used DuPont chromabase on an aircraft before and cleared it with 1K clear. Worked ok for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Blind Dog Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) The main issue would be getting a good barrier coat between the plastic and the automotive paint. Some types of automotive paint could damage, craze or melt the styrene. It depends on the paint's carrier medium, and how "hot" it is. An application of a high-quality primer such as Tamiya Fine Gray or White Surface Primer should allow you to then paint the model with anything you like. cheers Old Blind Dog Edited January 7, 2014 by Old Blind Dog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tosouthern66 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I have applied auto paint to a 1969 Dodge 440 six pack kit. You defanately need a good primer down before using the paint. I used Duplicolor gray spray primer I picked up at Autozone. The steps I used were as follows Medium coat of primer then wet sanded it smooth (not showing any bare plastic). Gave it another medium coat of primer along with wet sanding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 ok so what i found for a primer was rustolium light grey auto primer. and i also bought some medium reducer and the paint is a arcrylic enamel paint so with the reducer what kind of paint to reducer to paint mix should i use? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 The mix ratio should be on the can. But if not, I'd say mix it as you would any other paint. Does your paint require a hardener? Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 i will find out tomorrow if i need to add hardener to it. if my plan works i will be so happy using real car paint on my models Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sluggo2u Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 The main issue would be getting a good barrier coat between the plastic and the automotive paint. Some types of automotive paint could damage, craze or melt the styrene. It depends on the paint's carrier medium, and how "hot" it is. An application of a high-quality primer such as Tamiya Fine Gray or White Surface Primer should allow you to then paint the model with anything you like. cheers Old Blind Dog Ageed. I failed to mention the importance of primer. Auto reducers are usually too hot to go straight over plastic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lancer512 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Ageed. I failed to mention the importance of primer. Auto reducers are usually too hot to go straight over plastic. Following that advise, could I paint my airliner models with aviation grade polyurethane paint? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sluggo2u Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Can't answer that one. I have not been exposed to aviation grade materials since back in the Imron days. I used DuPont Chromabase on my F-104. It's a urethane paint. I primed it with DuPont 1K etching primer, sealed it with 1K trim and jamb clear and final coated it with Testors dull coat. I also painted most of the graphics on it with MM Acryl. No problems. I have painted Imron before and don't recall it being any hotter than chromabase. Here is the result. There's a thread where I talk about what was used and the process pretty much from start to finish. F-104 Edited January 9, 2014 by sluggo2u Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zeus60 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Beautiful work, sluggo! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PetarB Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 That is a gorgeous Starfighter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vince14 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) Here's the technique I use; 1) Apply an appropriate automotive primer - two light, almost 'mist', layers followed by a third, heavier coat. Space each coat out by 10 mins. 2) Allow a few days to completely dry. 3) Buff the primer with 1200-grit wet'n'dry paper - don't buff too hard, you'll burn through the paint layers very quickly. The aim is to get the primer as smooth as possible for the subsequent layers of paint. 4) Apply the paint of choice. Again, three layers with the first two being light. On your final coat, try no to get any drips or runs of paint. 5) Leave to dry - at least a week. 6) Once again, buff with old wet'n'dry. 7) Apply one final 'mist' coat. 8) Leave it another week. 9) Apply whatever clearcoat or lacquer is recommended by the manufacturer - three layers once again. 10) Leave to dry for a week. 11) You can then use any modelling wax you like to improve the shine, or indeed T-cut. 12) After all that, give all your hard work a quick wash in warm, slightly soapy water to remove any residue. 13) Job done! If you're spraying direct from the can, always place it in a container of warm water for a few minutes beforehand, and shake it for a good couple of minutes before applying. Vince Edited January 11, 2014 by vince14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 vince thanks for the help and every body else on hear thank you for helping. so after i figure out how it works ill post my findings on hear so others can learn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snegley Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Here is a very simple suggestion.......if you're going to use an automotive paint use an automotive grade primer also......I would suggest an acrylic lacquer primer. The lacquer primer dries fast and provides a good barrier coat for your color coat. Sand before applying any paint for good adhesion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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