Trigger Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 A few years ago when the color shifting paint came out in the car industry, Dupli-color put out a paint kit that was sold in Walmart where you could paint anything in the color shifting paint. The kit included three cans of paint, A flat black primer, a top coat and a clear coat, the clear coat had all the color shifting tents in it. The last F-22 I built I used the clear coat from the kit and work very well. It gave it that Raptor sheen to it. Here is a link to it http://www.duplicolor.com/products/mirage/ Would you mind posting pix or links to images of your F-22 build? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Check Six Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 The clear coat has a pearlescents to it that ,to me works just right. Oh; O.K. I wonder if I could buy just the clear coat instead of the whole kit. This would be something I'd like to experiment with. Thanks again for sharing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Barr Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I don't have full references on it, Aaron. I've shot it a bunch over the past year or two, but not up close enough to pick out the fine details of the artwork and stencils. I'm not opposed to it, if I can get the required pics.Paging Mr. Barr, Mr. Jim Barr..... PS Eric H might be able to help out as well. It is my understanding from reading the Caracal forum over in the "Sponsor's Forum" on this same subject that he is planing on doing the LM 'D' on his sheet. Regards Jim Barr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 It is my understanding from reading the Caracal forum over in the "Sponsor's Forum" on this same subject that he is planing on doing the LM 'D' on his sheet. I saw that but understood Caracal was planning on 48th and 72 only. The request for the LM "D" in this thread was for a 32nd kit. In the end the goal is for accurate markings and you (Jim) are the authority on factory Viper schemes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmel Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 looking good Jake!!! Thanks! 1. Placing a scanned strip of 595 (or any other) color chips onto a photo you found online is utterly and completely pointless. The same airplane photographed with the same camera five seconds later will look a totally different color depending on sun angle, etc, etc, etc, etc. Yes. I taxied past a couple of the jets with the new schemes at Eglin a while ago, and the hue of these jets changed as my vantage point in relation to the sun changed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Barr Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I saw that but understood Caracal was planning on 48th and 72 only. The request for the LM "D" in this thread was for a 32nd kit. In the end the goal is for accurate markings and you (Jim) are the authority on factory Viper schemes. Well two things, one I retired a little over a year ago so no long have direct access to the latest info that is releasable to the public; but second, as far as I know our group did not have that particular info anyway. In the past we were heavily involved in the laying out the pattern on the special "Tails" for the jets that were painted at the factory, but that went away with newer methods so unless we are ask to furnish a model we are often left out of the loop on information like that and therefore nothing to go into the "files". Regards Jim Barr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmel Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Paging Mr. Barr, Mr. Jim Barr..... :thumbsup:/> PS Eric H might be able to help out as well. Someone sent all the pics I could ever ask for, so I'm all set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dehowie Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) Stumbling around looking at Russian colors and the grey looks very very similar to the Egg plant grey used on the SU-34. Have a look at the SU image on the Linden Hill page and co a side by side. Very very similar. Oh Akan do the color. http://www.lindenhillimports.com/akanrussia+ussr.htm Edited January 19, 2014 by dehowie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strikeeagle801 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Someone sent all the pics I could ever ask for, so I'm all set. :thumbsup:/> For the LockMart Delta you mean? YIPEEEEE!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmel Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) Yes, sir. Here are updated profiles of the Edwards jets. Bigmouth and smallmouth Block 30s. these are current as of two days ago, with up-to-the-minute crew names and stencils. I'll post the Lock Mart jet later. For me, though, I can't wait to build the 85th TES flagship. :wub: Jake Edited January 18, 2014 by jmel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff_C Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 It is interesting to see the F-16 in something other than the standard Hill scheme (besides the aggressor schemes) IMO this looks almost like the gray that RoK has on their Strike Eagles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 ...as I can hardly wait for the 148FW jet :wub: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strikeeagle801 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 IMO this looks almost like the gray that RoK has on their Strike Eagles albeit cleaner (because they are newer) the F-15K is delivered in FS36118, Gunship Gray, just like the F-15E. And, as we have It isn't that. :D Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strikeeagle801 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) Yes, sir. I'll post the Lock Mart jet later. Jake Happy Dance! Aaron Edited January 19, 2014 by strikeeagle801 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff_C Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 albeit cleaner (because they are newer) the F-15K is delivered in FS36118, Gunship Gray, just like the F-15E. And, as we have :deadhorse1:/> It isn't that. :D/> Aaron Maybe it was because it was a factory fresh jet that the color looked darker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strikeeagle801 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Yeah, I thought that as well (that they were different) when I first saw them, but the F-15K and F-15SG are both just plain, boring, Gunship Gray. They also don't seem to weather as fast or as heavy as the USAF jets do...Especially RAF Lakenheath-based jets. Something about that English weather does not agree with a nice, clean paint job. Aaron Edited January 20, 2014 by strikeeagle801 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carlizle84 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Yeah, I thought that as well (that they were different) when I first saw them, but the F-15K and F-15SG are both just plain, boring, Gunship Gray. They also don't seem to weather as fast or as heavy as the USAF jets do...Especially RAF Lakenheath-based jets. Something about that English weather does not agree with a nice, clean paint job. Aaron And anywhere from 3-6 months in the desert 6 or 7 times in the last 10+ years will affect the paint Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strikeeagle801 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 And anywhere from 3-6 months in the desert 6 or 7 times in the last 10+ years will affect the paint Indeed! Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 ok i love the dark grey color Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randypandy831 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) Used to be grey on grey on grey. I guess with the budget cuts they had to lose a couple of greys. BO-ring... Edited January 28, 2014 by Jennings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Used to be grey on grey on grey. I guess with the budget cuts they had to lose a couple of greys. BO-ring... The earlier Have Glass scheme is the ultimate modeling challenge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meatwad Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Forgive me if I missed this in the near 100 posts in this thread: Is Have Glass the "official" name of this scheme? Just asking so that I know what to Google. "New F-16 camo scheme" is sending me off on many tangents. Sure looks, at least to my photographer's eye, that there's a red cast. When I looked at the curves of the OP's photo is photoshop, it's strong in the reds. Maybe there's a metallic added to the paint causing a rose colored shift? Doesn't titanium have a rose color to it? Just thinking out loud... Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 No, HAVE GLASS was a totally different type of paint. This is just a new color. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I'm seen the new scheme being referred to as 5th Generation Have Glass, not sure if it came from official sources? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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