Crazy Snap Captain Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Apart from the standard Viper scheme, did Belgian F-16's ever wear a camo pattern in their early years? Could have sworn I've seen pics of them with a green & brown scheme somewhere, but Google has come up with zero for me? Am I right or was I dreaming? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoFo Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 There was a belgian special scheme with a green and brown Spitfire painted on top of the fuselage. Is that what you're thinking of? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 No. I saw that though and I thought it was a tribute to their old scheme. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) You must've been dreaming Andrew as the Belgians have only ever worn the standard Hill Grey scheme with the exception of the Specials. The only early F-16's to wear anything different were the Venezuela ones. Unless maybe you saw a pre delivery illustration based on the Mirage 5 scheme? Edited January 27, 2014 by scotthldr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnopfor Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Apart from the standard Viper scheme, did Belgian F-16's ever wear a camo pattern in their early years? Could have sworn I've seen pics of them with a green & brown scheme somewhere, but Google has come up with zero for me? Am I right or was I dreaming? The USAF experimented with some camo schemes during the 1970's, but never went fleet-wide with them. Venezuela is the only nation with a scheme close to what you are describing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 Hmmm... Must've been one of my school time day dreams. Thanks guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DePat Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Andrew, You have not been daydreaming. Although Belgian Vipers were delivered in and have always flown in the Hill Grey (Egypt I (???)) scheme, paintings depicting Belgian Vipers in a Vietnam scheme have been published. The one picture I remember was on the cover of Air International but don't ask me which issue. It must have been published between 1975 and (probably) 1979. The scheme seems to me to be "greener" than the Venezuelan scheme and use other, darker colors, but this is a personal opinion. Patrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Razor87 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Andrew, You have not been daydreaming. Although Belgian Vipers were delivered in and have always flown in the Hill Grey (Egypt I (???)) scheme, paintings depicting Belgian Vipers in a Vietnam scheme have been published. The one picture I remember was on the cover of Air International but don't ask me which issue. It must have been published between 1975 and (probably) 1979. The scheme seems to me to be "greener" than the Venezuelan scheme and use other, darker colors, but this is a personal opinion. Patrick This one ? :) Edited January 29, 2014 by Razor87 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DePat Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 That's the one! Patrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Koen L Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) the Belgians have only ever worn the standard Hill Grey scheme with the exception of the Specials Not strictly true, the first one in a new 2-tone grey version showed up a while ago (similar to USAF machines I assume). It also has low viz grey stencils. http://www.airfighters.com/photo/133137/L/Belgium-Air-Force/General-Dynamics-F-16BM-Fighting-Falcon/FB-20/ Edited January 29, 2014 by Koen L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 This one ? :)/> Yes! I knew I wasn't dreaming! Thanks chaps. This scheme never went operation though right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Razor87 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Yes! I knew I wasn't dreaming! Thanks chaps. This scheme never went operation though right? Nope. It was just a mid/late 70s artist's impression of what the future Belgian F-16s could look like. Too bad they never wore a similar scheme. Those grey Vipers are so boring... Edited January 29, 2014 by Razor87 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevan Vogler Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 It's not uncommon for artists to use existing camouflage patterns to depict what an aircraft might look like before it goes into service with a particular nation. Those F-16s are simply wearing the camo that was on Belgian F-104s. Artist impressions of Australian and Spanish Hornets were done up respectively in those nations' Mirage III and Mirage F.1 camo schemes. The original artist impressions of the Saab Gripen were done in Viggen splinter camo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lancer512 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I've found this artist's impression in one of the brochures included in the 1977 Paris Airshow GD F-16 press package. That would be a nice "what if". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piper19 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Hello, I asked this question to an ex BAF F-16 crew chief who worked on them at Beauvechain AB in the early 80s. He confirms there was no other standard camouflage than the grey one. Only difference is that early F-16s had a black radome but this changed around the same time the tail parachute housings were installed. In the early days some F-104s were still flying and they had the Vietnam camouflage scheme, which was the standard scheme for the BAF until then on most of their aircraft. So when the F-16 was ordered in the late 70s, it was very normal to depict a BAF F-16 in Vietnam camouflage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stevehnz Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Hmmmm, an F-16 done in SEA style camo with BAF markings would make for a super whif scheme. Pity they only came in grey, which is such a boring finish hence why I'm sorting out the bits & pieces to do an Agressor schemed F-16. Steve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joerg Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 As a kid I had the very first edition of the Esci 1/48 Viper and they had that scheme in the kit. Actually built mine as the Belgian option and always thought it looked kind of cool. Don´t have it anymore though - it fell to a well placed piece of fireworks… Cheers, Joerg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SouthViper Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not Belgian but too fine to be ignored One of the FSD aircraft, #75752, adorned with the European One camouflage scheme firing a 3.75 inch FFAR rocket. Note the aircraft is equiped with the P&W F-100PW-220 engine. [uSAF photo] posted here under fair use of images for illustrative purposes only. SouthViper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Stark Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Belgian F-16 in SEA scheme from an ESCI kit instructions Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 Belgian F-16 in SEA scheme from an ESCI kit instructions Nice find T! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sietse Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Maybe interesting to know. Revell issued (long time ago) a Dutch F-16 in scale 1/72 with a green/grey camouflage scheme, although Dutch F-16's only flew in the so well known grey scheme. Sietse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_baphomet_00 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Maybe interesting to know. Revell issued (long time ago) a Dutch F-16 in scale 1/72 with a green/grey camouflage scheme, although Dutch F-16's only flew in the so well known grey scheme. Sietse Hi Sietse, Do you have any pic of that Dutch green/grey camo scheme? It would be very interesting to see... TIA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 It was this kit: Revell F-16A. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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