skyhawk174 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Ok this is not even my scale but I think the UH-1N is such a cool machine I might even get up the courage to pick it up. I have the 1/48 version already so maybe I should go lie down and the feeling will pass. Only thing is that I am not 100% sure if this is a re-box of the Panda UH-1N? I think it was Panda who issued an UH-1N in 1/35 as far as I can remember. I may be wrong though. Any of you know the story on this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Yes, it is a reboxing of the Panda kit with new decals, some nice colored PE, and Dragon's IDF Paratrooper figures added. On their previous USMC UH-1N boxing, they also added a pair of XM-93 minigun mounts and ammo box along with a couple rocket pods. Hopefully they will reissue their 1/35 UH-1D kits as well. They are going for stupid money ($100+) on eBay right now. Edited March 30, 2014 by HeavyArty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ernest Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 they are already pre-sales, hopefully soon be ours. :thumbsup:/> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
troschi Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) to be honest, it's a crappy kit with with steam locomotive rivets and a serious shape issue with the nose. Some modifications will most certainly be necessary to represent a correct IDF aircraft. If they include the same PE fret as they did with the UH-1D/H and previous UH-1N, most of it will be unsusable or unsuitable for a Twin Huey. For what you get is the price simply too high! But on the other hand, there is no alternative in this scale... Edited March 31, 2014 by troschi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 to be honest, it's a crappy kit with with steam locomotive rivets and a serious shape issue with the nose. Some modifications will most certainly be necessary to represent a correct IDF aircraft. If they include the same PE fret as they did with the UH-1D/H and previous UH-1N, most of it will be unsusable or unsuitable for a Twin Huey. For what you get is the price simply too high! But on the other hand, there is no alternative in this scale... The rivets and crude details can all be addressed with enough time / money. The biggest problem with their N-model is that they got the entire nose profile wrong. No easy way to fix that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 They are not the greatest kits, but very usable. Cobra Company has a couple UH-1N upgrade sets that have a properly shaped nose in them. The rivets are not that hard to deal with by lightly sanding to reduce their size. The biggest pluses w/the PE are the seat belts and a few other pieces. I have built a couple and they can come out really nice w/ a little TLC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loach Driver Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 The biggest problem with their N-model is that they got the entire nose profile wrong. No easy way to fix that. I think there is a fix for the nose. If I remember it correctly, it involves glueing the nose section together and then cutting the nose off along a vertical line just forward of the lower foot-well windows. Flip the cut off section over and reattach. Apparently, this works and gives an accurate nose profile. It also works for the Italeri/Revell Bell 212 kit. LD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 I think there is a fix for the nose. If I remember it correctly, it involves glueing the nose section together and then cutting the nose off along a vertical line just forward of the lower foot-well windows. Flip the cut off section over and reattach. Apparently, this works and gives an accurate nose profile. It also works for the Italeri/Revell Bell 212 kit. LD. I have heard of this fix for the 1/48th kit but have never seen it in action. Maybe I should go do a search. Also, finding some side view profiles would probably help. Good to know that he 1/32nd guys have a ready fix with the CC sets. Lucky guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ernest Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) always built on scale 1/72, I am now migrating to the highest 1/35 and 1/32 ... humm :hmmm:/> ... interesting challenges posed by this kit ... better and more fun .../> I will list my instrumental .... jjjj Edited April 1, 2014 by Ernest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnightprowler Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Also, the Panda D main and tail rotors are for the N, so they are incorrect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Also, the Panda D main and tail rotors are for the N, so they are incorrect The Dragon German "Heer" boxing has the correct 205 rotors. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) Also, the Panda D main and tail rotors are for the N, so they are incorrect The issue is the spine running the full length of the blade. It is actually a 212 (UH-1N) blade. The D/H blade doesn't have this feature. It is easy to fix though, as below: The top one has been corrected. The middle is how it comes in the kit. The bottom one has the area to be removed in red. The tail rotor blades can also be easily narrowed to be more correct for a D/H model. Edited April 1, 2014 by HeavyArty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnightprowler Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Is the tail rotor also not too short for a D model? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Is the tail rotor also not too short for a D model? No it's too wide. The tail rotor is a 212 rotor which has a wider chord than the UH-1D/H. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zerosystem Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Cobra makes the correct ones too I think Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnightprowler Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Would it really hurt Panda that much to correct the D model? Not everyone want to purchase aftermarket stuff on top of a spendy kit to build a correct model. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salvador001 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) This Dragon models have very serious shape issues, both the N and D are upscaled from Italeri 48th N and D models, starting by the ugly shaped nose of the N, the interior for both is not so accurate and the exterior including that overscaled riveting is awful, the vertical fin is very thin in chort and width, the rotor head is not so detailed, and as Ray says the main and tail blades are 212 type not said the tail blades are bad shaped too. I would recommend to include all the interior, including armored seats, IP, collectives, cyclics, pedals, consoles, of the Academy/MRC UH-1C including the Eduard PE for it. Other parts you can use of the Charlie model from Academy/MRC is the main rotor head(excluding the hub and blades), the tail rotor that is perfectly shaped and detailed, etc. If you want to re-rivet the whole body, you can use archer rivets, but that is some serious work. Rod. Edited April 2, 2014 by salvador001 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hooknladderno1 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I would really like to have a large scale (1/35 or 1/32) CH-146/412 kit. Has there been any aftermarket offerings in these scales? I have a 1/35 scale Panda UH1N. I recently purchased a 1/48 scale Italeri UH1N kit to use with the Belcher Bits conversion set. I recall that there was a member several years ago who did a few 1/35 scale 412 conversions. David Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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