zaktwist Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 So I decided to build the Revell Bf109G-6 with all the Alley cat resin sets. I figured this would be quite a straight forward and quick build that I could complete in my summer break from University....how wrong I was! I wont go into to much detail about the kits fit issues as I think its been said numerous times before on other folks builds. However it has to be said that I think many of the problems I had were due to my mediocre modelling skills! The Alley cat set is beautiful and is a 'must have' set for this kit but I may not bother using aires's cockpits again due to fit issues (which Ive had with every set I had from them.) This is the bird i'm making (montex masks) Bf109G-14 yellow 25. Aires cockpit (Fit issues? Oh yes). Need to tone down weathering. Assembly underway, oh and a crap load of rivets (MDC rivet tool) A wash of humbrol black to highlight rivets and mistakes That's all for now, next update she'll have some paint on :salute:/>/>/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zaktwist Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 Painting started. First time using Montex masks and have to say they go down really well Access panel scribed (not present on revel kit) Spinner (May re-do this as not entirely happy with it) Thanks for looking :salute:/> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGB Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Hello, Very nice, Cheers Boris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 That looks very nice indeed. I'm really interested in more information on the fitment of the Aires cockpit as I have one on order for my Revell G-6. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zaktwist Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 That looks very nice indeed. I'm really interested in more information on the fitment of the Aires cockpit as I have one on order for my Revell G-6. Cheers, Tom Hi Tom. To get my Aires to fit I had to sand the sidewalls to almost wafer-thin thickness. A very delicate and time consuming process! Also I had to put the walls in hot water and carefully bend them to fit the main resin tub. I made the mistake of painting BEFORE I sanded it and subsequently had to strip and repaint it due to it becoming damaged in the sanding process. Then i had to sand both fuselage walls as well and dry fit everything countless times. Also be careful when fitting the instrument panel. It clearly doesn't fit as per Aires's instructions and needs a lot of fiddling about. When I'd got it looking as best as I could (it was still slightly misaligned) I had to fill the HUGE gaps around the top and sand down. Wish I'd brought the new Eduard Brassin cockpit instead :bandhead2:/> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Hi Tom. To get my Aires to fit I had to sand the sidewalls to almost wafer-thin thickness. A very delicate and time consuming process! Also I had to put the walls in hot water and carefully bend them to fit the main resin tub. I made the mistake of painting BEFORE I sanded it and subsequently had to strip and repaint it due to it becoming damaged in the sanding process. Then i had to sand both fuselage walls as well and dry fit everything countless times. Also be careful when fitting the instrument panel. It clearly doesn't fit as per Aires's instructions and needs a lot of fiddling about. When I'd got it looking as best as I could (it was still slightly misaligned) I had to fill the HUGE gaps around the top and sand down. Wish I'd brought the new Eduard Brassin cockpit instead :bandhead2:/>/>/> This is good information and typical of installing Aires stuff. But would the Eduard Brassin set be drop in or, at the very least, less troublesome? And the Brassin set is very pricey. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zaktwist Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share Posted June 1, 2014 This is good information and typical of installing Aires stuff. But would the Eduard Brassin set be drop in or, at the very least, less troublesome? And the Brassin set is very pricey. Cheers, Tom Agree that the Brassin set is way to expensive, the price put me off for sure but ive read that its a good fit in comparison to aires and that could've saved me a lot of messing around. Also im not to keen on eduards use of pre-painted IP's, they never look to good IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 This is good information and typical of installing Aires stuff. But would the Eduard Brassin set be drop in or, at the very least, less troublesome? And the Brassin set is very pricey. Cheers, Tom Over on HS, Brett Green indicated that the Brassin cockpit goes in nicely. Then he was reminded by others on the HS forum that he had to perform significant modifications to get it to fit. Apparently he "forgot" about the work he had performed. More and more I'm coming to the conclusion that this guy is a shrill for Eduard. I think the Brassin set will take less work than the Aires (I don't think anything could take more) but it is not close to being a drop-in. I'm hoping Barracudacals eventually releases a resin cockpit for this kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Hi Tom. To get my Aires to fit I had to sand the sidewalls to almost wafer-thin thickness. A very delicate and time consuming process! Also I had to put the walls in hot water and carefully bend them to fit the main resin tub. I made the mistake of painting BEFORE I sanded it and subsequently had to strip and repaint it due to it becoming damaged in the sanding process. Then i had to sand both fuselage walls as well and dry fit everything countless times. Also be careful when fitting the instrument panel. It clearly doesn't fit as per Aires's instructions and needs a lot of fiddling about. When I'd got it looking as best as I could (it was still slightly misaligned) I had to fill the HUGE gaps around the top and sand down. Wish I'd brought the new Eduard Brassin cockpit instead :bandhead2:/>/> Wow I would have never guessed it was such a pain. It looks great. From the pictures you are making this all look easy and the paint is great too! How did you do the chipping on the prop and spinner? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nicholassagan Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Wow this is shaping up nicely!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zaktwist Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 Wow I would have never guessed it was such a pain. It looks great. From the pictures you are making this all look easy and the paint is great too! How did you do the chipping on the prop and spinner? thanks! R.e the prop, I first base coated with alclad aluminium then over sprayed with Tamiya. The chipping was achieved by using a pin and scratching the paint off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zaktwist Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) Ok back at it again. Had a bit of a mishap and had to strip and repaint EVERYTHING :bandhead2:/> . So ive repainted and started with the weathering, using oils, clear coat more oils, clear coat and abit more airbrush. Figured out that my painting style/technique is abit over complicated and at this stage I can easily screw things up by over/under doing stuff so fingers crossed. I'll have to try something new on the next build. Also I got the brassin landing gear set today. First impressions, certainly better than the kit offering and will save a lot of time but still has a darn nasty seam line which could be difficult to remove! Think the review that I read praising them was maybe written by Mr.Green? ;)/> Edited June 23, 2014 by zaktwist Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 For all the difficulties you've had to deal with, it looking simply outstanding. I really like your weathering in those up close shots. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zaktwist Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 For all the difficulties you've had to deal with, it looking simply outstanding. I really like your weathering in those up close shots. Joel thanks joel! yes its proven to be quite a tough build, probably go for a hasegawa next time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pandabear Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) --- Edited July 2, 2014 by pandabear Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mhorina Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I was wondering because I have both the Aires and the Eduard cockpit sets. Does the lack of the locating bars, for the wing spar, that is on the Revell kit cockpit's underside contribute to the Aires fit problem and secondly does the missing locaters allow the wing spar to align properly? The Eduard set has the locating spar bars on the bottom of their set just like the Revell kit. Anyone have this info or those that have used the Aires set think this could be the problem with the fit? Mike Horina Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zaktwist Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 I was wondering because I have both the Aires and the Eduard cockpit sets. Does the lack of the locating bars, for the wing spar, that is on the Revell kit cockpit's underside contribute to the Aires fit problem and secondly does the missing locaters allow the wing spar to align properly? The Eduard set has the locating spar bars on the bottom of their set just like the Revell kit. Anyone have this info or those that have used the Aires set think this could be the problem with the fit? Mike Horina I think the aires fit issues are due to more than just the spar, which I had to remove in my build. All the spar would do is support the cockpit but I chose to make a small plastic stock 'step' instead. Fortunately the wings were quite easy to align without the spar. One of the main problems (one of many) I had was aligning the Aires IP, It just wouldn't fit and as a result I had to cut off around 1mm from the bottom of the IP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mhorina Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) I think the aires fit issues are due to more than just the spar, which I had to remove in my build. All the spar would do is support the cockpit but I chose to make a small plastic stock 'step' instead. Fortunately the wings were quite easy to align without the spar. One of the main problems (one of many) I had was aligning the Aires IP, It just wouldn't fit and as a result I had to cut off around 1mm from the bottom of the IP. Zaktwist, Thank you for this info concerning the spar. Another question if I may. I was wondering about the fit of the Aires IP because with the Eduard cockpit set you cannot fit the IP if you have glued the two side walls to the floor first. Could this be the same problem with the Aires set? Or did you fit the IP with only one side glued on? Thanks for any info concerning this item. By the way, I really like the way the bottom of your model turned out. The entire model looks very nice and well done. Mike Horina Edited June 28, 2014 by mhorina Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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