SuperTomcat21 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Cool but Su-27KUB is the kit that is really interesting... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Cool but Su-27KUB is the kit that is really interesting... Agreed - and I can't wait to get it - I just hope they get it right. But it is a strange marketing choice - a one-off airframe that is no longer flying. I would have thought that a Su-34 would be a better seller - but what do I know ??? Don't get me wrong - I applaud Trumpeter for doing it and I'm excited at the prospect - it's just that there are more 'marketable' choices, IMHO. Like a canarded Su-30MKI/MKM/MKA for example. Just saying.... Ken PS - Re the J-15 - we already have the acceptable Hasegawa Su-33 and the promised Zvezda Su-33 - plus decals to make the J-15, but I guess the more-the-merrier is OK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) I dont think Trumpeter really does any marketing research tbh. :D They just make stuff, regardless of how many has been made in real life. I mean they are releasing a frikin' Szhatie laser tank. Not exactly an in service machine. But i will buy it regardless. :D Bigger boxart: Edited June 14, 2014 by Berkut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 For Chinese market Hasegawa or Zvezda will be more expensive so there is good excuse for them to make this model. Also, there is enough difference to warrant a J-15 model over Su-33, anyhow. Pylons, weapons, exhausts, cockpit, decals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ijozic Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) Agreed - and I can't wait to get it - I just hope they get it right. But it is a strange marketing choice - a one-off airframe that is no longer flying. I would have thought that a Su-34 would be a better seller - but what do I know ??? It seems to be a standard practice to offer less appealing variants first to increase the chances that people waiting for e.g. the Su-34 might get the KUB, too (if they will offer the KUB to start with, that is and fortunately they will). Edited June 14, 2014 by ijozic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Considering KUB shares pretty much nothing in common with Su-34, your theory doesn't hold any water. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ijozic Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) I don't think that this lack of commonality is relevant here as I didn't bring the Su-34 to discussion and was referring to variants release in general. But, yes, I agree with you as I don't think this release is preceeding the Fullback, but as Trumpeter was doing the naval variant, they decided to offer something new and do the prototype naval twin seater (e.g. like the A-10 twin seater) and I thank them for this approach. Edited June 15, 2014 by ijozic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 But, yes, I agree with you as I don't think this release is preceeding the Fullback, but as Trumpeter was doing the naval variant, they decided to offer something new and do the prototype naval twin seater (e.g. like the A-10 twin seater) and I thank them for this approach. That i can agree on. Hopefully it will be good accuracy wise, there probably wont be a second chance for anyone, ever. The J-15 looked decent at first look atleast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ReccePhreak Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I dont think Trumpeter really does any marketing research tbh. :D/> They just make stuff, regardless of how many has been made in real life. Trumpeter (AND HobbyBooBoo) don't appear to do much of ANY research, IMHO. Just look at their track record of innaccurate kits. <_< Larry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cubs2jets Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I think the box art is a political statement. Isn't that the drilling rig the Chinese have put in disputed waters in the background?? C2j Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvn76 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Su33KUB may be in Chi. Aircraft factory, you may see them on CV16 soon or later :blink: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Su33KUB may be in Chi. Aircraft factory, you may see them on CV16 soon or later :blink:/> To admit that is indeed one thing I would like to know. I remember that some time ago (right after the KUB was reequipped with TVC-engines) it was especially demonstrated to the PLAN. .... so far without any result. Does anyone have any better information on the outcome of these talks ??? Deino Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Can't wait for the Trumpeter 1:72 J-15. Must built it for Oct 1st for Chinese National Holiday!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuperTomcat21 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) 苏-27KUB/33UB coming soon in 2015,and Tumpey will do J-15s!and MKI MKM MKA blblbl Edited June 23, 2014 by SuperTomcat21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Such a strange boxart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I love the multi-facetted radome....... It must be difficult to make the Flanker look ugly from any angle - but this artist has achieved it. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 J-15 > Su-33 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 J-15 > Su-33 Sorry, but what do want to say with that statement ??? Do You mean ">" in the sense of larger, then You are wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 He either means that J-15 is better or that he looks forward to J-15 more. Either way, CHINA STROo00NG!!1!1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 J-15 boxart is better than Su-33. China strong? I don't think I care. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) Here two nice new images of serial 104 & 105: http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?125099-Chinese-Air-Power-Thread-17&p=2174545#post2174545 ... as well as the probably first serial J-15S ! Deino Edited October 11, 2014 by Deino Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Dieno, If I take the Trumpeter J-15 (when it arrives) - and graft on the upper fuselage/cockpit section from a Trumpeter Su-30MKK - can I make a J-15S ??? Are there any other visible differences ??? I feel a Flanker coming on......... Ken PS - I hope Trumpeter get their J-15 right - bigger wing and all........ :pray: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LanceB Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Isn't that the drilling rig the Chinese have put in disputed waters in the background?? The drilling rig? Which one (and in which disputed waters)? They seem to have a few... Perhaps the box art is payback for this box art. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) Dieno, If I take the Trumpeter J-15 (when it arrives) - and graft on the upper fuselage/cockpit section from a Trumpeter Su-30MKK - can I make a J-15S ??? Are there any other visible differences ??? I feel a Flanker coming on......... :whistle:/>/> Ken PS - I hope Trumpeter get their J-15 right - bigger wing and all........ :pray:/>/> :pray:/>/> Hi Ken ... regarding the twin-seater J-15S I think YES. The only detail I'm not sure is if the J-15S also features a slightly taller tail in comparison to the standard J-15. However the tail seems wider but not as tall as on the MKK. Deino Regarding bigger wing ??? ... I thought that bigger wing was only used on the Russian Su-33KUB, whereas the J-15 and J-15S has the common Su-33 wing. Edited October 11, 2014 by Deino Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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