fulcrum1 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Anyone know? Open source news was pretty detailed with everything else they're buying, but nothing about migs or su's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 BBC News says Sukhoi fighter jets, and posted a pic of a Su-27. Su-24 or -25 sounds more likely to me, but I'm no specialist. I wonder more who are going to fly these things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vince14 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yeah, the -25 would be the most obvious choice, and there's probably still a small cadre of ex-Iraqi Air force pilots around who have previously flown it who could get up to speed relatively quickly. I guess any spare seats will be filled by 'Advisors' from Belarus. Vince Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) I highly doubt there are any qualified Iraqi personnel that can safely and effectively fly or service them at such short notice, I believe they essentially are hiring mercenary pilots and ground crew from Russia or Belarus. Edited June 27, 2014 by KursadA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yeah, Iraq hasn't flown an Su-25 in almost 25 years. You don't just hop back in and take off after that much time. More likely to be mercenary pilots and ground crews. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niart17 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yeah, Iraq hasn't flown an Su-25 in almost 25 years. You don't just hop back in and take off after that much time. More likely to be mercenary pilots and ground crews. What?!? But...but but...I saw in Independence Day, Quaid hadn't flown a jet since "F-4's back in 'Nam" and he jumped into an F-18 and took to it like riding a bike. Surely it's like that isn't it? Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 It is murky at the moment. Rumored to be 6 Su-30K's. (ex Indian Air Force) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yeah, Iraq hasn't flown an Su-25 in almost 25 years. You don't just hop back in and take off after that much time. More likely to be mercenary pilots and ground crews. Depends on your tolerance for safety. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) What?!? But...but but...I saw in Independence Day, Quaid hadn't flown a jet since "F-4's back in 'Nam" and he jumped into an F-18 and took to it like riding a bike. Surely it's like that isn't it? :woot.gif:/> Bill Study your history, thats standard for most UFO attacks Edited June 27, 2014 by TaiidanTomcat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pep Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Su-25s would make the most sense given the situation. I heard this morning they even authorized Assad to do airstrikes on ISIS in Iraq. so might end up being Iraqi planes piloted by Syrians. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vince14 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yeah, Iraq hasn't flown an Su-25 in almost 25 years. You don't just hop back in and take off after that much time. More likely to be mercenary pilots and ground crews. Hence why I said ' who could get up to speed relatively quickly. I guess any spare seats will be filled by 'Advisors' from Belarus'. I'm not expecting them to 'just hop back in', but there are things that you don't forget even if you've not sat in a cockpit for years. The training syllabus could be compressed and truncated to get former pilots flying the jets sooner than would be the case with neophytes. And in the meantime, you use mercs from Belarus to help stem the ISIS tide. Vince Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Guess those new Block 52+ F-16 we gave them they bought just aren't capable enough... :bandhead2: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Guess those new Block 52+ F-16 we gave them they bought just aren't capable enough... :bandhead2:/> :bandhead2:/> :bandhead2:/> I don't think they have left Texas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I don't think they have left Texas. True, but the Iwaqi government has "taken delivery", last I heard the jets will be flown over before the end of the year. http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article4866.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Guess those new Block 52+ F-16 we gave them they bought ...which they haven't seen yet. And they kinda need them yesterday. just aren't capable enough... :bandhead2: Correct. :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moose135 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 What?!? But...but but...I saw in Independence Day, Quaid hadn't flown a jet since "F-4's back in 'Nam" and he jumped into an F-18 and took to it like riding a bike. Surely it's like that isn't it? Flying a plane is no different from riding a bicycle; it's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Correct. :)/> ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 ? They are nerfed to oblivion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fulcrum1 Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 Good grace did we dork this one up. x10 Fencers just landed. http://rt.com/news/169144-iraq-russian-jets-arrive/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 It is RT. I believe it when i see pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I doubt the new F-16s Blk52s will leave Texas anytime soon, given the current state of affairs and instability. Those Su-25s look slightly "used". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Depends on your tolerance for safety. As long as they were born with 20/20 vision they're fine. Regards, Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moggy Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) The Iraqi govt. (Shi'a) probably gets the Su-25 drivers from the Iranian (Shi'a) GIRC - that fly... Su-25s! Instant attack squadron ;)/> The "califate" fighters are hard-core Sunni; it's a muslim internal religious war (think Reformation vs Catholic in European history). Edited June 29, 2014 by Moggy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Footage this afternoon has shown SU-25's being removed from transports. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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