Paolo Maglio Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) Spike, I just come back from the beach where I spent my morning talking to a Tornado pilot and he told me exaxhly what you wrote! Not only the kit is correct but you can also keep that joint line since it is there on the real one, just barely visible on glossy black! Edited July 6, 2014 by Paolo Maglio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spike7451 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Spike, I just come back from the beach where I spent my morning talking to a Tornado pilot and he told me exaxhly what you wrote! Not only the kit is correct but you can also keep that joint line since it there on the real one, just barely visible on glossy black! No problem Paolo,...Although being an Armourer,we didn't have cause to open these panels much,we left that the the ancillary trades... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 and the tail is not bad at all, all yoou need to do is to shorter the air intake a bit, it is 1 mm too tall but it dosn't matter to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Also note: for Italian Tornados in Gray wraparound camouflage you will also need to add the GPS dome just behind the canopy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 A couple of days ago I received the Missionmarks decals so yesterday I was able to finsh this nice kit, my only regret is the canopy doesn't close that well but all in all this kit is truly axcellent and at nice price! now I really hope ECR and ADV variants will be produced soon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 That's a really nice build there. Stephen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fulcrum1 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Glad I didn't buy the HB kit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galfa Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Paolo, Both windshield and canopy look squashed to me. What do you think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Paolo, Both windshield and canopy look squashed to me. What do you think? it fits the photo of the real beast so I think it is correct, only the refuelling pod is a bit too small in the kit. I peobably squashed some of my pics while reducing them in dimension sorry, even the canopy that seem not to close perfectly looks like the real one in the Revell kit I suggest to change only the Sidewinders, the pitot and the tyres, more weapons would also be nice to have, I took the Storm Shadow from the Eurofighter kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chek Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 One thing I'm noticing on these Revell builds (but haven't got that far myself yet) is that the upper curve of the intake topside is built in to the intake sides, but when mated to the fuselage it's getting forced upwards. That distorts the shape to something like the early prototype stepped style, which is completely wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scvrobeson Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 One thing I've noticed on the Revell kit is that the top of the tail is really thick. Is creates almost a diamond shape up at the top, but every picture seems to show a very thin tail. Looks like some sanding will fix that though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galfa Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 This is for Paolo, again. First of all let me congratulate for your great build. Yours is one of the best looking Tornado I have ever seen in this scale. And then, I really would like to know your opinion regarding the topside of the intakes. Finally, would you let me know what kind of aftermarket you believe should be released for this kit? Best, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spike7451 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 JD Parkins (Flightpath) is working on a aftermarket set for the kit along the lines of the one he did for the Italeri kit.And the BOZ pod is too rounded & the rear face is wrong in the kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 Well, the ai intakes are quite tricky tu put together, there are so many pieces and fitting is marginal here and there, I didn't follow the instruction but managed to dome them. For shape and accuracy intakes are good enought for my Mrk.I eyesight About aftermarket I would buy: 1- pitot, Master one is easy to fit even if not made for the Revell kit but smaller aerial woul not fit since holes in the fuselage are too large. 2- resin cokpit or PE side consolles, those in the kit are not well detailed and decals doesn't fit well on the side conselles. 3- metal landing gear with compressed front oleo to be used with trust reverse and stroner struts for the main gear doors (managed to broke both! ) 4- a PE set to detail the underfuselage pilons or a resin set with detailed pilons 5- a resin Thompson pod 6- some good weapons in resin like JDAM or GBU-24 7- new AIM-9L it is impossible to use those in the box 8- resin tyres by Eduar, I would like to buy but are too expensive for my pockets 9- resin seats complete with haerness and air conditioning tubing around the top 10- a new decal sheet of course! Those in the box ir really weird! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zerosystem Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 10- a new decal sheet of course! Those in the box ir really weird! :deadhorse1:/> Peddinghaus has a sheet for 3 German IDS Tornadoes, it might be new as I've not seen it before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Walker Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I'm building this kit at present, and I have found the engineering to be over done in several places (Flaps, intakes to name 2). This would be fine if the molding was up to the level of the engineering. My sample has extra blobs of plastic on EVERY piece, many of which interfere with fit. Then there are areas where there is too much "wiggle room" in regards location, which has carry over effects on other joints. I ended up with some pretty big gaps. Is this just my sample? How have others found the build of this kit? M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 for sure it is not an easy kit, a far cry from Tamiya quality, no part fits without glue and lot of time and patience. I usually finish a kit in 4 weekends, this one took me 4 months! But I didn't find anything I can deal with and no, in my kit there were no blob of plastic but several sink marks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spike7451 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm building this kit at present, and I have found the engineering to be over done in several places (Flaps, intakes to name 2). This would be fine if the molding was up to the level of the engineering. My sample has extra blobs of plastic on EVERY piece, many of which interfere with fit. Then there are areas where there is too much "wiggle room" in regards location, which has carry over effects on other joints. I ended up with some pretty big gaps. Is this just my sample? How have others found the build of this kit? M My first one went in the bin!...The was huge gaps around where the front section meets the rear section,and the intake fit was so bad that the right side fitted together well BUT the left side wouldn't line up,consequently the whole intake & wing glove vane section wouldn't line up. One of the blokes over on BM is building it & he's also found the Nav's CRT screens & MMD assembly is too small. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janissary Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 My first one went in the bin!...The was huge gaps around where the front section meets the rear section,and the intake fit was so bad that the right side fitted together well BUT the left side wouldn't line up,consequently the whole intake & wing glove vane section wouldn't line up. One of the blokes over on BM is building it & he's also found the Nav's CRT screens & MMD assembly is too small. After you message I went over to BM and found this: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234965432-revell-tornado-new-kit-raf-gr4-148/ I don't know the builder (so I want to assume he is good). But from what I can see, the kit looks horrendous. I thought this was supposed to be the ultimate 1/48th Tornado! I am not bashing Revell but from what I see, it seems nowhere near all the hype about this kit. Am I missing something? On the flip side, Paolo's build on the previous page looks pretty awesome. I read his comments too, but now I am a little split. For the record, I don't have the kit but do have the HB one. I want to build a Saudi Tornado at some point, so debating HB vs Revell. I am aware of HB's shape issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brahio Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) After you message I went over to BM and found this: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234965432-revell-tornado-new-kit-raf-gr4-148/ I don't know the builder (so I want to assume he is good). But from what I can see, the kit looks horrendous. I'd say the problem with this building lays somewhere between a table and a chair. There is another one, much better Edited September 30, 2014 by brahio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metroman Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Seems that the old adage of 'measure twice, cut once' is really important here - fitting the multiple fuselage parts -very well- could make or break a build. I hav ethe kit but haven't played around w/ the parts - waiting for more builds to blaze that trail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 if you are on Facebook you can check my two parts step by step build here: https://www.facebook.com/pierpaolo.maglio/media_set?set=a.10203943507018603.1549992624&type=3 I'm sorry but it takes too much time to upload 500 photos on this forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I wish someone would make new Kormoran missiles...... I feel the need! :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I wish someone would make new Kormoran missiles...... I feel the need! :P/> Maybe you should ask someone who has the Daco Starfighter full set. There are two nice Kormorans included. Thomas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 Maybe you should ask someone who has the Daco Starfighter full set. There are two nice Kormorans included. Thomas Actually there is just ONE Kormoran in each DACO F-104 box the other is an AS-4 or something like that. While very well done if you want to add to a Tornado you will aklso need the adapters (same as used for Harm on Tornado's belly). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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