Lyash Igor Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The AH-1Z will be here in January 2015 Floyd Great news, Floyd! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sarathi S. Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 1/72. You know you want to. XD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GlennCauley Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Got a advertisement today from Steel Models, showing the 1/48 AH-1Z Viper (KH80125). On their site, still "out of stock." Yup, will get one when available! But please also make a 1/35 !!! :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GlennCauley Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 http://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/kth80125.htm Kitty Hawk 1/48 AH-1Z Viper now available ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jaypack44 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Just saw some of the shots of the finished product: http://www.charlottesvillemodelers.com/plastic-aircraft-models/apache-ah-1z/ Love that there's a low-vis Atlas option as well; I got to sit in the cockpit of 168000/QT-612, which will require quite a bit of decal modification, but I'd love to have that and the colorbird sitting on my shelf, so I'll probably be in for two! USMC AH-1Zs 168800 and 168000 by Josh Kaiser, on Flickr Edited January 16, 2015 by Jaypack44 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Newf36 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 On sale at Sprue Brothers as of today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Postman623 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 On sale at Sprue Brothers as of today. Aaaaannnd Purchased to add to the stash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
helonewb Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 In box quick review at http://www.helokit.com/?p=2975 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Par429 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hey- Looks pretty good, now I need to get one of these. But looking at the weapons loading diagram, I wonder where they got the notion that the LAU-68 should be mounted on an AH-1W style canted inboard pylon? Incorrectly identified reference photos? The Zulu just has straight pylons and everything mounts to them. Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otis252 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm so hoping for that in 35th scale! Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ernest Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 tremendous model, I join the petition in 1/35 scale! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Hey- Looks pretty good, now I need to get one of these. But looking at the weapons loading diagram, I wonder where they got the notion that the LAU-68 should be mounted on an AH-1W style canted inboard pylon? Incorrectly identified reference photos? The Zulu just has straight pylons and everything mounts to them. Phil Nevermind. Big case of foot in mouth disease. mason Edited January 23, 2015 by doupnik Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Par429 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I have it from a former "warheads on foreheads" type who worked with Zulus, that there are two underwing harpoints on each wing. He was involved with this project and says they have it correct. mason Hey- I work at NAVAIR Pax River and was the weapons separation engineer on the AH-1Z program. Yes, the Zulu has two underwing hardpoints on each wing. The AH-1W does also but inboard it has a canted pylon (angled outboard) which ejects the stores outboard away from the skid if it's required to jettison them. The Zulu does not use this canted pylon since the wings are larger and the inboard store station will clear the skid (mostly) if the store has to be jettisoned. It just has straight mounted pylons on the inboard hardpoints which eject the stores straight down. The loading diagram on the instructions appears to indicate that you can load a LAU-68 on a canted pylon inboard which is not correct. A LAU-68 would just be mounted to a wing pylon like it shows for the LAU-61. I hope this makes sense. Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) The load out illustration shows the canted pylon, the instruction sheet shows an assembly of a some kind of pylon and on the parts sprues you can see a weird pylon. They obviously meant for it to be there. Apparently they are unaware that the installation is improper. There does not appear to be a part or illustration for the correct installation. And I don't know much about this airframe at all. So I went and looked at what's available and lo and behold there is NOT a canted pylon there. What is there is something like a VEE on it's side. And if you look carefully in the sprues, I see what looks like the exact thing. Now the instructions are not crystal clear and there is no way to check the part numbers in the instructions against the plastic parts but I'm led to believe the load out pictures are what is in correct. Once somebody here actually has one we might know what's what. Chris M Edited January 22, 2015 by Chief Snake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Hey- I work at NAVAIR Pax River and was the weapons separation engineer on the AH-1Z program. Yes, the Zulu has two underwing hardpoints on each wing. The AH-1W does also but inboard it has a canted pylon (angled outboard) which ejects the stores outboard away from the skid if it's required to jettison them. The Zulu does not use this canted pylon since the wings are larger and the inboard store station will clear the skid (mostly) if the store has to be jettisoned. It just has straight mounted pylons on the inboard hardpoints which eject the stores straight down. The loading diagram on the instructions appears to indicate that you can load a LAU-68 on a canted pylon inboard which is not correct. A LAU-68 would just be mounted to a wing pylon like it shows for the LAU-61. I hope this makes sense. Phil Phil Please excuse me, I did not mean to challenge you. I misunderstood the explanation I was given. You obviously have more hand on experience than I ever will. mason Edited January 23, 2015 by doupnik Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Par429 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Phil Please excuse me, I did not mean to challenge you. I was led to believe that this was correct, I apologize if I am mistaken. You obviously have more hand on experience than I ever will. mason Mason- No worries! Perhaps I worded my response too strongly. I'm just trying to be helpful. It Just seems an odd error for them to make, but one which is easily corrected by the modeler by just not using that part. Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Hi received a kit, first feeling are good. I was wondering from the CAD and other pictures how it is with rivet lines. They are finely done without any exageration. clear parts are protected in a separate box. Thank you KH, and all here that participated in this project, nice result. Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
usmcski6502 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Phil Please excuse me, I did not mean to challenge you. I was led to believe that this was correct, I apologize if I am mistaken. You obviously have more hand on experience than I ever will. mason Phil/Mason, The original CAD drawings had the correct inner weapons stations, but for some reason KH chose to do the canted version. The starboard side gun bay should also have an ammo can, not the avionics as shown. Seems like an odd mistake, as there is no lack of photos available on the web depicting the correct configurations. No worries, I'll just steal the canted racks for my W or T! Semper, Ski Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Hi What are the best places to find pictures on the maintenance crew and a good walkaround with inner details ? particulary these 2 bays and engines ? Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd S. Werner, Jr. Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) Phil/Mason, The original CAD drawings had the correct inner weapons stations, but for some reason KH chose to do the canted version. The starboard side gun bay should also have an ammo can, not the avionics as shown. Seems like an odd mistake, as there is no lack of photos available on the web depicting the correct configurations. No worries, I'll just steal the canted racks for my W or T! Semper, Ski I was holding off until I had one in my hands to comment, but since mine hasn't arrived and you guys started to discuss the kit I wanted to contribute. I had a big hand, along with some others on this post, in the development of the kit. Any issues are all my fault. I am the helicopter consultant guy for Kitty Hawk. I had no input into the Sea Sprite but from now on blame me. Again it is my fault, I missed the canted pylon. I think we were looking at an early preproduction machine for that. No excuse I should have picked it up. I missed it when we checked the CAD drawings.. It isn't a big deal to remove the canted portion of the pylon. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is there is is no ammo box. Again I don't have the kit yet so they may have added it last minute. We pointed it out but I think it may have been too late. If you close up the ammo bay then there is no issue. Other than those two minor things, which depending on how you build it won't affect the build, I'd say it is pretty perfect. Now if I can get them to do it in 1/35th scale. Patrick Najmulski, Mason Doupnik, Randy Smith, and Aaron Rhodes were all helpful in getting the model correct. They really did the hard work and were instrumental in making this model near perfect. I'd like to publicly thank them for their help. Floyd Edited January 24, 2015 by Floyd S. Werner, Jr. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otis252 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Oh please let there be a 1/35th scale kit! Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Floyd, any word on the UH-1Y yet? And please, please keep pushing for 1/35 for both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strikeeagle801 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 It was a great experience to be a part of this! I was happy to help. Josh Kaiser helped with the reference photos for the decals as well. Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Par429 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I was holding off until I had one in my hands to comment, but since mine hasn't arrived and you guys started to discuss the kit I wanted to contribute. I had a big hand, along with some others on this post, in the development of the kit. Any issues are all my fault. I am the helicopter consultant guy for Kitty Hawk. I had no input into the Sea Sprite but from now on blame me. Again it is my fault, I missed the canted pylon. I think we were looking at an early preproduction machine for that. No excuse I should have picked it up. I missed it when we checked the CAD drawings.. It isn't a big deal to remove the canted portion of the pylon. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is there is is no ammo box. Again I don't have the kit yet so they may have added it last minute. We pointed it out but I think it may have been too late. If you close up the ammo bay then there is no issue. Other than those two minor things, which depending on how you build it won't affect the build, I'd say it is pretty perfect. Now if I can get them to do it in 1/35th scale. Patrick Najmulski, Mason Doupnik, Randy Smith, and Aaron Rhodes were all helpful in getting the model correct. They really did the hard work and were instrumental in making this model near perfect. I'd like to publicly thank them for their help. Floyd Floyd (and all others who contributed to this kit)- A big thanks to you guys! I have ordered one and am very happy that such a kit is available. I'm not a rivet-counter generally and no kit is perfect, I get that. The canted pylon just kind of jumped out at me since I spent several years woking closely with this aircraft while it was at Pax River doing weapons system testing. No big deal, it seems an easy fix. Thanks again, Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd S. Werner, Jr. Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Floyd, any word on the UH-1Y yet? And please, please keep pushing for 1/35 for both. Not sure when but not too much longer. We still haven't looked it over real well but you'll be happy with that too. I'm trying to get them to do a Vietnam UH-1D/H and a post war UH-1H. On my list to make happen is an AH-1F in 1/35th for purely personal reasons. AH-1G in 1/48 and 1/35th. AH-64A and D in 1/35th and a couple of other Vietnam aircraft. I'll also try for the Mi-8/17 family of helicopters. Again it isn't my money. Successful sales and feedback from one kit usually generates interest to do more and by various manufacturers. Remember helicopters, even Hueys, are not 109s, 190s or P-51s, the cash cows of the model market. Sales beget more options. If I had $15,000 of my own money we'd have one of them at least. LOL Floyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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