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SU-33UB is here, got it on Ebay from a local dealer (cheaper than the single seater).

Anyway, cockpit does not offer the access trap in the rear bulkhead and there does not seem to be enough space to allow a fully grown man (let alone one in G-suit and exposure suit with a helmet on) to sneak in between the seats.

Nose gear well is completely devoid of any detail.

Not sure about the shape of the nose cone and canopy, I am planting fruit trees now, maybe tonight.

No canards leading edge kink and no Thrust Vectoring Nozzles.

Hi, did you have some pictures please ?

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SU-33UB is here, got it on Ebay from a local dealer (cheaper than the single seater).

Anyway, cockpit does not offer the access trap in the rear bulkhead and there does not seem to be enough space to allow a fully grown man (let alone one in G-suit and exposure suit with a helmet on) to sneak in between the seats.

IINM The Russians don't fly with G-suits like the other air forces do...

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Of course they do - they're not supermen !!

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But Su-33UB pilots would probably wear bulky immersions suits when operating from Kuznetsov...

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Ken

Ken, in that last picture it seems evident that the bulk is not caused by the immersion suits but rather by exceedingly good fare on board Kutsnetzov.

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http://www.1999.co.jp/image/10378073/10/0

The wing is really bigger than single seat version.

Thanks for the link - some good images of the instruction sheets and decals etc.

Interesting view of the folded option - they are assuming that it folds past the vertical like on the single seater.

Anyone ever seen a photo of the Su-33UB with the wings folded??? (I know they do - but it's never been shown AFAIK)

Mine should arrive tomorrow - I can't wait!

Ken

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After a lenghty examination of videos and pictures, I came to the conclusion that the only real error is that the canopy is too shallow by perhaps 2 mm, while the length is correct it should have a more "peaked" appearance.

There is a carrier trials video on Youtube that lasts almost 7 minutes and shows pretty good cockpit footage. Notice how much clearance the pilots have above their helmets.

the canopy sides ought to be quite a bit more vertical.

This and the increased chord rudders are the only errors that I can see.

As far as the wings folding past the vertical, is perhaps because they need to be lower than the vertical fins.

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As far as the wings folding past the vertical, is perhaps because they need to be lower than the vertical fins.

They do on the Su-33, but on the Su-33UB, the wing fold is further outboard (in line with the tips of the horizontal stabs - which don't fold)

The means that the wingtips could probably be vertical and still be lower than the fin tips (a bit like the F/A-18 Hornet).

If only we had a photo of the wings folded on a Su-33UB.

Ken

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Stand by guys, I am working on it.

Photos

The rest of the sprue are identical to the single seater.

Thank you for those. Could you please compare the radome between the Su-33UB and Su-33? Are they identical too?

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I am not sure anout the diameter difference n ow. I have been eyeng those pictures so long...

What is wrong is the shape of the fuselage around the cockpit. The side walls are not straight and tall enough to accomodate a cockpit that should be about the same width of the SU-34's, compare the cannon blast protection area in the real aircraft and the kit. Also the canopy should peak more and the windhield slope should be steeper, then they should blend in with the normal SU-33 nose just past the IRST sensor.

I compared the cockpit with the Neomega SU-34 upgrade, yes there is a difference in width at the rear bulkhead where the access door should be.

There's no fixing this one.

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Like Helmspilot, I too have been studying photos and my refs on the Su-33UB.

Regarding the cockpit, Yefim Gordon's mighty tome on the Flanker says....

The flightdeck is not identical to that of the Su-34 - it was somewhat narrower, with the seats located closer together in order to improve visibility during carrier approach.

He mentions that any production(?) Su-33UB would have a clamshell canopy - pilot access when wearing their bulky VMSK-3 immersion suits causes problems accessing the cockpit via the narrow nose wheel well and the pilots prefer getting in from an open canopy.

Also, I'm not sure I agree with Berkut about the nose - the white section of the radome appears to be slightly shorter than that on the Su-33, but the overall length of the fuselage is the - same according to published dimensions.

My tired old eyes cannot see that (to quote Berkut) clearly UB's radome is shorter and has greater diameter - it may be shorter, but I cannot see any increase in diameter.

Any evidence Berkut ??? I'm not 'having a go' - just trying to share opinions.

As my Su-33UB kit is still in transit somewhere in the postal system, I'll wait until it arrives before making any comparisons.

Ken

PS - Gordon also say (about the wings) .... The wing folding angles were reduced, the outer wings being almost vertical when folded.

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