taylorde Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Has anyone heard about this? http://www.geocities.ws/Pentagon/Bunker/7316/burial.html DAveT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STEN8 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 No, but I sure would like to dive that reef. Or fish it. I would love to dangle a live minnow on a #4 circle hook above the intake of a sunken Intruder. I'll bet there are some serious grouper lurking in those A-6 nooks and crannies. :)/> A far better end then as recycled beer cans, in my humble opinion. Harry Lutz, FL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Its old news! Yet to see any photos of this wonderful new fish world they created. I think it is the most stupid end for a jet, its even worse than Tomcats being used as razor blades! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnl42 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I think it is the most stupid end for a jet, its even worse than Tomcats being used as razor blades! That's truly a sad end to a tremendous aircraft. Breaks my heart too... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Viasistina Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Just curious as to what you guys think should have happened to these hulks? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) A couple of museum pieces, then recycling. The US generally does a good job of complying to environmental standards before committing ex-military equipment to nature. Everything is drained and cleaned, and all hazardous material gets stripped. I don't think they'll hurt their aquatic environment, maybe their purpose in jump starting coral reef growth will succeed. Coral reefs are endangered habitats and giving the organisms a home to build on will likely have some positive effect. Edited October 20, 2014 by Exhausted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Just curious as to what you guys think should have happened to these hulks? recycled into something worth while... Another aircraft maybe, car parts... something, anything, just not dump all that metal into the sea! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STEN8 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 In the Gulf of Mexico structure on the bottom means fish. I am not a scientist or an environmental specialist, and claim no knowledge of weighty matters. But I do fish a lot down here and I am sure that those Intruders are now full of grouper and snapper and all kinds of interesting and amazing critters. Structure means fish. Why not put them there.... they are Navy birds, after all. They are used to a little salt water. Harry Lutz, FL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChippyWho Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Like when CV-34 was sunk to create an artificial reef (2006?), the first reaction is how sad to see her go to the bottom...but if you can't keep 'em afloat or in the air, 'burial at sea' is sort of in keeping with tradition, and like STEN8 says, helps out the marine life when around ten per cent of coral reefs have been lost due to various environmental issues. Personally, weighing the environmental aspects, I'd rather see them rest in the deep to mark their history than end up as a soda can or part of a VW! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 As a right-wing environmentalist, I say cut 'em up for scrap. Helps the economy and retains the energy used to refine those metals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 As a right-wing environmentalist, I say cut 'em up for scrap. Helps the economy Whose economy? Pretty much all US scrap metal goes to China. I'd rather see those A-6's helping US fish vrs Chinese corporations. :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MacStingy Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Don't know about you, but the site in orig. post turns into a redirect. I don't come here for that! Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Don't know about you, but the site in orig. post turns into a redirect. I don't come here for that! Paul The text in the link is the site with the content and for me it does not redirect. I would check your computer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nerdling Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) recycled into something worth while... Another aircraft maybe, car parts... something, anything, just not dump all that metal into the sea! So are you suggesting that creating a reef which will actually help drive the economy through fishing as well as scuba diving isn't worthwhile? Found a Youtube video of the reef. Seems to be doing its job pretty dang well if you ask me. Edited October 20, 2014 by nerdling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 They couldnt do it with something else? Something more suitable for the job? Its an honest question, I know nothing about aquatic matters... Im about as naval as a belly button Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STEN8 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Beautiful video - and where there are hand sized fish there are bigger fish that eat them - and so on and so on and so on. Down here the Marines dumped a whole load of old AMTRAKS ( I forget which model) off Anclote Key and there are some serious fish living there now. I know - I have almost caught several of them. :)/> Thanks for the cool video - I was sure it would be a good dive. Harry Lutz, FL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MacStingy Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 The text in the link is the site with the content and for me it does not redirect. I would check your computer. Grrrrrr Must be ios 8.02 up to its tricks on my iPad. Reef video looks great. Cheers Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
f5guy Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Beautiful video - and where there are hand sized fish there are bigger fish that eat them - and so on and so on and so on. Down here the Marines dumped a whole load of old AMTRAKS ( I forget which model) off Anclote Key and there are some serious fish living there now. I know - I have almost caught several of them. :)/>/>/> Thanks for the cool video - I was sure it would be a good dive. Harry Lutz, FL I'm going to have to agree with Harry on this one. While its sad to see several mighty Intruders on the ocean floor, its not like they dumped hundreds of them.... at least from the pic.... maybe eight or ten? The rest probably did go to be recycled, or to museums. As a hard core Tiger Musky fisherman here in Utah, I can back Harry 100% on artificial reef creation. Any structure draws smaller organisms, which draw bigger organisms, which draw even bigger organisms... you get the idea. A lot of local crappie fisherman dump their old Christmas trees (with cinder blocks attached) in prime lake locations, which draw in the crappie. You can bet your life that when I find one with my fish finder, I put a GPS waypoint on it! Find the bait, and find the predators.... its that simple :thumbsup:/> Fred K Edited October 24, 2014 by f5guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STEN8 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Fred, What a great idea!!! I know just the lake and just the place this years' Christmas tree is destined for! There is a rather large bass who has eluded me over the years, and I may have discovered the perfect way to ambush him. Thanks for the tip - I won't even need a GPS. Fish On! Harry Lutz, FL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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