Jennings Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 http://www.airfix.com/catalog/product/view/id/8411/category/1215/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mawz Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) Noticed and immediately ignored ;-) Neither the RCAF nor the Ilmavoimat had any, so it's not exactly up my alley. Nice to see a modern one finally show up. Edited December 22, 2014 by mawz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Niiiiiiiiiiiice. Cheers, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Viasistina Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Nice.. very nice.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevan Vogler Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I'll get properly excited when they bring out the AEW variant parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChippyWho Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Not really my thing, but a much needed new kit since we're not all Phillistines! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I also noticed that you announced this a few months ago too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stevehnz Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Yup, just like you said they would, I can sell one of my old Frog ones now seeing as I won't need one to convert it to a Mk 2. Got some plans for some Fundekals for these Jennings? Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 Doubtful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Koen L Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) And now Revell has a 1/72 Shackleton AEW.2 in the catalogue. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234973128-revell-172-shackelton-aew-2/ Edited December 24, 2014 by Koen L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted December 24, 2014 Author Share Posted December 24, 2014 New tool, or yet another Frog reissue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stevehnz Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Doubtful. No doubt the nice Mr Xtradecal will see us right onj that score New tool, or yet another Frog reissue? Almost certainly a new tool from readings on other forums, in that the the MR.3 molds are beyond tired & the conversion is very extensive. At the very least a huge retool but without seeing it I'd put my money on a new tool. Talk about a famine then a feast.... Steve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevan Vogler Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Did Revell Germany not announce sometime earlier this year that the Frog Shackleton molds were unusable anymore due to cracking and other forms of metal fatigue and that they would be scrapped? I'm personally hoping that Airfix will tool their Shack in such a way that they will offer up an AEW conversion set in the same manner that they did with recce and tanker versions of the Valiant. Given Revell's recent 1/72 Halifax and B-17 kits and their hangups, I'd sooner wait to see where Airfix goes with theirs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthman Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I was really surprised to hear Airfix were doing an MR2 first?? Demand will be far greater for the AEW variant now being released by Revell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K5054NZ Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 It may be that Airfix went MR2 given their access to a preserved example, as well as the drawings etc held by the owners: http://www.airfix.com/uk-en/news/airfix-development-news-avro-shackleton-mr2-172/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Given the modular way the recent Airfix stuff is designed, I'd be shocked if theirs isn't designed to do both eventually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 it is designed for both, as the test shots recently shown built up indicate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCAFFAN Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) English Modelling mags have indicated that the Airfix moulds are intended to cover both types and that it now looks like the Revell will be the same kit so maybe the deal involved gives Revell first shot at the AEW but Airfix makes money off the moulds eitherway .... P.S. I understood that Revell only got the "German" aircraft in the Frog line and that the rest went to Russia (U.S.S.R. at the time) including the Shackleton as the Russians did not want the German planes for political reasons. I don't think Revell ever had the Frog kit. Edited April 14, 2015 by RCAFFAN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 English Modelling mags have indicated that the Airfix moulds are intended to cover both types and that it now looks like the Revell will be the same kit so maybe the deal involved gives Revell first shot at the AEW but Airfix makes money off the moulds eitherway .... The Revell and Airfix kits ARE NOT related in any way, shape or form. They are NOT The same kit. There has been no deal of any sort between the companies, this is a straight head-to-head first past the post shoot out. And as the Shackleton preservation trust have made clear, Airfix had full access to the goodies, Revell didn't. Place your bets! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCAFFAN Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) The March issue of SAMI believes they are the same mold and that Airfix and Revell are sharing as they did with the recent Concorde kit. Since only Airfix has shown any info (CAD drawings) on developing the kit, this makes more sense than anything else as your Shackleton preservation trust has no say in the matter other than who they allow to access their particular plane. Your out and out denial does not seem very plausible on the evidence as I'm sure Revell and Airfix don't make all their dealings public so how can you say for sure.. Edited April 14, 2015 by RCAFFAN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) First things first. Airfix are not sharing the Concord with Revell. Heller are. The Concord was never an Airfix kit. It was Heller, and when Humbrol divested itself of Heller the tooling stayed with Heller. So that has zero connection to Airfix. Airfix have never collaborated with Revell, full stop. The Airfix kit is well past CAD. Airfix showed test shots built up on their own site several weeks ago. Revell? A picture in their catalogue. If you think my denials are implausible then that's your prerogative, but Airfix and Revell have never collaborated, and would appear to have no plans to. And SAMI have no better access to Airfix than anyone else I'd wager. Why would they? But, you know, whatever you want to believe! Oh, and as far as the SPT goes, it was FAR more than access to the plane. They are the design authority for the aircraft following an agreement with British Aerospace in the 1990's , and have all remaining design and production documentation for the aircraft. Access to THAT as well as the aircraft is what's important in that story. Airfix had it, Revell didn't. Edited April 15, 2015 by Dmanton300 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan Mock Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 The March issue of SAMI believes they are the same mold and that Airfix and Revell are sharing as they did with the recent Concorde kit. Since only Airfix has shown any info (CAD drawings) on developing the kit, this makes more sense than anything else as your Shackleton preservation trust has no say in the matter other than who they allow to access their particular plane. Your out and out denial does not seem very plausible on the evidence as I'm sure Revell and Airfix don't make all their dealings public so how can you say for sure.. The March issue of SAMI believes wrong. They are not the same kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Fleming Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 SAMI had it that Airfix were doing all three versions of the Shack - the moulds make it clear that's not the case (and you'd need pretty much new moulds anyway). SAMI are renowned for putting half-baked rumours in their magazine as 'fact' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCAFFAN Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I was only repeating what SAMI said, and have no idea if right or wrong but I have seen no proof from Drew that the kits are in fact different and suspect he has no proof either. Since Revell hasn't done any real research as he says maybe they have plans around this such as sharing moulds as they are famous for but until we see both kits who knows. We will have to wait and see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I was only repeating what SAMI said, and have no idea if right or wrong but I have seen no proof from Drew that the kits are in fact different and suspect he has no proof either. Since Revell hasn't done any real research as he says maybe they have plans around this such as sharing moulds as they are famous for but until we see both kits who knows. We will have to wait and see. I;m not actually trying to start an argument here, but I seem to have anyway. You're right, I have no proof. What I have is the weight of history and and the established relationship between Revell and Airfix (to whit - none at all) on my side. Revell and Airfix have never collaborated. On anything. Ever. That's a historical FACT. What you have is something reported as fact from a magazine renowned for reporting wildly speculative rumour as such. Generally the first clue you need to double check something written in SAMI is that *it's in SAMI*. But you're right. Time will prove me right, not speculation on here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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