11bee Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Interesting article about a possible Russian sub lurking near the UK's primary sub base. Although the press seems to be making a big deal over this, I'm sure it's no different than what the USN / Royal Navy are doing near Russian and Chinese sub bases. The Cold War is over but the subsurface games continue. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11334836/MoD-forced-to-ask-US-for-help-in-tracking-Russian-submarine.html Looks like US Navy P-3 / P-8 crews may gets some decent deployments in the future. I'd rather be deployed to RAF Lossiemouth than some godforsaken location in the mid-east. Thought I read somewhere that the RAF was thinking about a purchase of P-8's so that they could again have a fixed wing ASW capability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Interesting article about a possible Russian sub lurking near the UK's primary sub base. Although the press seems to be making a big deal over this, I'm sure it's no different than what the USN / Royal Navy are doing near Russian and Chinese sub bases. The Cold War is over but the subsurface games continue. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11334836/MoD-forced-to-ask-US-for-help-in-tracking-Russian-submarine.html Looks like US Navy P-3 / P-8 crews may gets some decent deployments in the future. I'd rather be deployed to RAF Lossiemouth than some godforsaken location in the mid-east. Thought I read somewhere that the RAF was thinking about a purchase of P-8's so that they could again have a fixed wing ASW capability. You give them too much credit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DutyCat Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 You give them too much credit. Who, the MOD for thinking about buying P-8, or MPA capability? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Who, the MOD for thinking about buying P-8, or MPA capability? The Russians keep doing these token gestures to "scare the west" as if they didn't have a military that is a shadow of its former self and is largely using equipment from the Soviet Era. I promise this whatever is going on still pales in comparison to the 1980s. Everything was bigger with higher stakes back then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Horrido Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Speaking of Russian subs and where they don't belong, any further news on Sweden? Saw an additional report regarding photographs of tracks on the sea bed indicating a mini-sub. I remember reports similar to this from the 1980s along the Swedish coast, including line drawings of the tracks and screw marks along the bottom. Have the Russians ever released photos of a tracked submarine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Have the Russians ever released photos of a tracked submarine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Here it is undergoing operational testing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aurora Mark Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 LMAO, love it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/TeP8yaW.png Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Latest Typhoon class...? :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) "Shome thingsh in heare don't react well to shellsh." Edited January 12, 2015 by Trigger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horrido Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yeah, I forgot about that pic. There is a difference between a tracked submersible and a submerged track. Prob'ly got lost in translation, somewhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Latest Typhoon class...? :lol:/>/> What's with the POL tank tied to the front? I think this problem can be solved just like everything else -- by taking something we always use and make it even bigger. What we need is a really large fishnet. Edited January 13, 2015 by Exhausted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aurora Mark Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Mmmm, I love fishing. One thing is certain, if there is one nation that is better at making a specific sub, for a specific purpose, it is the Russians. For years we pretended that they didn't have a good idea about what they were doing; not the case at all. I have an incredible amount of respect for their naval fleet (surface and subsurface). I have to say, they are good at what they do. Very good. Mark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) One thing is certain, if there is one nation that is better at making a specific sub, for a specific purpose, it is the Russians. One would argue that the only reason their subs are even remotely close to western designs was because the Russians stole key technology from the west. They do have some pretty revolutionary designs though (the Alpha and Typhoon classes come to mind). If your single criteria is building an undetectable sub, many would argue that the Swedes should be considered at the top of that particular pyramid. Edited January 14, 2015 by 11bee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aurora Mark Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Hahahahaha. That dang elusive Swiss Nuc, hahahaha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horrido Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Dude, I wouldn't laugh. To the best of my knowledge, no Swiss navy has EVER been defeated in battle on the high seas! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Interesting blurb about a new Russian spy sub here: http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/did-top-gear-russia-really-out-a-secret-submarine-1679099681 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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