F4DPhantomII Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) Bought the Pro Modeler 1/32 He 111P kit and am wondering about the main interior color.Should it be RLM 02 Grau or RLM 66 Schwartzgrau?Instructions just says gray. Edited February 3, 2015 by F4DPhantomII Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I think RLM 66 was used after 1942, so I'd think RLM 02 is the correct color Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Swanny's website concurs...RLM 02. RLM 66 for the He 111H-6 and on. http://www.swannysmodels.com/Painting.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seawinder Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Swanny's website concurs...RLM 02. RLM 66 for the He 111H-6 and on. http://www.swannysmodels.com/Painting.html I made the same query to HyperScale a couple of years ago when I was working on an H-3. Responses from Steven Eisenman (along with photos that are no longer online) indicated that, contrary to the rules, He 111s had 66 cockpits from the P model on. Edited February 3, 2015 by seawinder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WymanV Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Seems to me the general consensus is all German twin engine bombers were RLM 66, regardless of the timeframe. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Fondlebottom Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I would not say regardless of the timeframe, but it is a pretty safe bet looking at mid-39 onwards. If you look at say the pre war He111 A to E I wouldn't be so sure, but P and onwards I'd probably paint it all RLM66. The Norwegian Ju88A-1 pulled out of the lake was all RLM66 interior for example, and that first flew in January 1940, while the http://www.swannysmodels.com/Painting.html outlines Ju88 to have RLM02 throughout the whole A and B series. So I'd toss all of that out the window. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Did I read that the cockpit was RLM 66 and the crew area aft of the bomb bay was RLM 02? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HistnScale Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 You are correct, Don. Cheers, Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hooter Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Well now I'm confused ! I have the brand new Airfix Dornier Do. 17Z to build, and according to the instructions the interior is Humbrol 240, which is RLM Grau 02, I also have the Squadron Signal He. 111 walkround book, which states that the interior of the He. 111P preserved in Norway is RLM 66, so Which is correct ? :huh:/> Edited February 4, 2015 by hooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Two different aircraft manufacturers. Apples vs. oranges. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seawinder Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Well now I'm confused ! I have the brand new Airfix Dornier Do. 17Z to build, and according to the instructions the interior is Humbrol 240, which is RLM Grau 02, I also have the Squadron Signal He. 111 walkround book, which states that the interior of the He. 111P preserved in Norway is RLM 66, so Which is correct ? :huh:/>/> What's/who's to say that Airfix have the call-out correct? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigjugs Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Do 17Z was 66 dark gray-green also. Airfix is quite wrong. Ju 88 was 66 as was He 111P and the Fw 190A. BTW, there were no rules. The LW just came to the conclusion that 66 was the better choice. You could always post at HS and ask there also. Edited February 10, 2015 by bigjugs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 66 is grey-green? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCAFFAN Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Don't build German stuff but I would not just say Airfix is wrong as the Colours in their new kits seem to be pretty accurate. Based on experience I have questioned some of their colour call outs in the new kits but further research has shown them right so I don't think they just guess. The Do17 started life as an airliner before the 111 so I would not be surprised if they used the earlier (02) colour but I don't claim to be an expert.... Edited February 11, 2015 by RCAFFAN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigjugs Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 66 is grey-green? It started off as a dark gray with a green tinge to it. Actually, according to Jerry Crandall there were about 11 documented variations on the color RLM 66. Might have been better to say a dark greenish gray. Tamiya German Gray is the easiest answer. With perhaps a drop of dark green for the early version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigjugs Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Don't build German stuff but I would not just say Airfix is wrong as the Colours in their new kits seem to be pretty accurate. Based on experience I have questioned some of their colour call outs in the new kits but further research has shown them right so I don't think they just guess. The Do17 started life as an airliner before the 111 so I would not be surprised if they used the earlier (02) colour but I don't claim to be an expert.... Airfix is wrong. The Do 17 started out as a fast mail carrier with the possibility of carrying up to 6 passenger, which Lufthansa rejected. All that does not mean 02 was used in the cockpit, especially as 02 was a RLM color designation not a civilian color. It might have, but there are no clear pictures of the V series. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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