f4h1phantom Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Caption: "F-4D with 20 mm wing guns at Phù Cát Air Base. Chuck Webster Jr. photo": Caption: "This is a special F-4E Wing Commander Brig. General Rogers with special flight. 4 SUU-23 under wing stations, 1 under center line and Vulcan Nose Gun. Fired all guns and really slowed the air craft down because of firepower of guns. Historic flight. Danny Vallance": Caption: "F-4 Revetments with F-4 taxing and special F-4E with General Rogers and special painted aircraft and SUU-23 on wings and nose gun. Photo's taken by Danny Vallance": In spite of caption aircraft appears to have only four pods and a centerline fuel tank. Thought somebody might be interested. Jorge. Edited March 26, 2015 by f4h1phantom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalo Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Is there picture with the aircrafts markings as far as squadron and such? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalo Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 This would be an excellent modeling project Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Don't believe everything you see... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 That's a serious gunfighter.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Wilson Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Way cool. I always thought it was complete B.S. that the single F-4E known as "Chico" had wiring modifications done in the field for carrying the SUU-23 pods. I'd bet every USAF fighter version of the F-4 and maybe even the recces had the capability from the factory. Your photos make me even more sure that was the case. Scott W. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene K Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) I'd bet every USAF fighter version of the F-4 and maybe even the recces had the capability from the factory. OK, I'll start with the C/D model: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=149030&view=findpost&p=1348062 Gene K Edited March 17, 2015 by Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Somewhere I've seen a photo of a Michigan Six Pack F-4D with five 20mm pods loaded. It was done as a joke for an outgoing commander AFAIK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcel111 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Very interesting and thx for posting! Marcel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene K Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 For those who missed Marcel's build of the model above, go here for the best Phantom build I've had the pleasure to follow. Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Wilson Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 OK, I'll start with the C/D model: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=149030&view=findpost&p=1348062 Gene K Thanks, Gene! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene K Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Thanks, Gene! Since no one else played, here's the F-4E chart. I don't know much about the RF-4 variants except that they initially had no weapons capability until AIM- 9s were made capable on Israeli RFs. Additionally, some (which?) could carry a nuc on the centerline. Maybe Larry The Recce Guy will chime in here. Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F4DPhantomII Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Somewhere I've seen a photo of a Michigan Six Pack F-4D with five 20mm pods loaded. It was done as a joke for an outgoing commander AFAIK. That is true Jennings.A friend of mine retired from the 191st and may have a pic. I'll ask him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F4DPhantomII Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I just wonder how many Phantoms could fire all those Vulcans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 My AFROTC Detachment commander flew F-4s in Vietnam, and he said the wing pods were WILDLY inaccurate. They were basically used to hose down a wide area. He also had strike camera film from his a/c that showed a napalm canister dropping off the inboard pylon, tumbling back underneath the airplane, then being sucked up *OVER* the top of the wing. He said it bounced off the side of the fuselage before it parted company, then exploded very close behind them. Never did figure out why it happened, but it was pretty exciting to see! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcel111 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 For those who missed Marcel's build of the model above, go here for the best Phantom build I've had the pleasure to follow. Gene K Thx Gene... I'm blushing Marcel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F4DPhantomII Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Michigan ANG Gunfighter F-4D: https://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=2%5f0%5f0%5f1%5f6481629%5fAGPsw0MAACvoVQuLUQhgiFbDSfQ&m=YaDownload&pid=1.2.2&fid=Inbox&inline=1&appid=yahoomail Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Just one and not Nam: Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
f4h1phantom Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Another one I forgot to publish, from a series of pictures from Vietnam. Don't have any additional details: Jorge. Edited March 24, 2015 by f4h1phantom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erik_g Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Don't believe everything you see... Reminds me of some SwAF Xmas cards I have seen. One showing a Gripen with four Rb 15F ASMs (it can only carry two). Another one showing a shark nosed Recce-Viggen with three drop tanks (Viggen could only take one tank under the center pylon) and one of the two Sidewinder missiles mounted on backwards. Just because stuff fits on the pylon it does not necessarily mean that they are supposed to be carried there :-) But anyway, if there is a photo of it, it is indeed a valid modelling subject, and gun pods are macho! :-D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
f4h1phantom Posted August 8, 2015 Author Share Posted August 8, 2015 (edited) Back to original topic, which was for aircraft during the Vietnam War. Another one from The F-4 Phantom Facebook group, pictures by Paul Erlendson: F-4D 65-0781, 366 TFW, Da Nang during the winter of 68-69. Note three gun pods. Jorge. Edited August 8, 2015 by f4h1phantom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 That's a lot of lead to swing around in the air! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmk0210 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 (edited) Just one and not Nam: Jari I've seen pictures of the Hooligans with the gun pod on the centerline, for Air Defense alert. This looks like a Ferry configuration. There's a baggage pod under the opposite wing. Perhaps going off to training, competition or a distant alert station. Edited August 8, 2015 by dmk0210 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 The SUU-23 came With 2 alternative butts, one long and one short. The short was developed in order to allow the Phantom to carry them as in the Picture without interfering With the main landing gear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Youngtiger1 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Interesting bit of an information here. I too have wondered that there had to be more F-4 in Vietnam dd missions with multiple gun pods. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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