Deino Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Maybe I missed it ... but will there ever be a chance to get this kit as a regular kit and not by this crusade of purchasing several magazines ?? Deino Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Platycqb Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Maybe I missed it ... but will there ever be a chance to get this kit as a regular kit and not by this crusade of purchasing several magazines ?? Deino 99.9% chance of not being released as a whole kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoFo Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Put it this way: FM have released a bunch of kits in this manner, in conjunction with Model Graphix. It goes back at least a decade. None of them have ever been re-boxed as a straight kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inquisitor Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Put it this way: FM have released a bunch of kits in this manner, in conjunction with Model Graphix. It goes back at least a decade. None of them have ever been re-boxed as a straight kit. If the info is to be believed, they did rebox their Type 89 that was once put in 3 issues of Armour Modeling (Model Graphix AFV focused mag), but that's more to do with cashing in on a certain Tank Anime bandwagon. So there's still some sliver of hope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 The kit looks pretty amazing! Not sure I'll get one at $60+50 for shipping. A $110 1/72 Tomcat doesn't make sense. But here's a few shots for reference of one of the markings included. Shot at Miramar 97 det. First time VF-31 carried BOL sidewinder rails and a few months before they got Lantirn pods. Enjoy! -brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
White Wolf Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) The kit looks pretty amazing! Not sure I'll get one at $60+50 for shipping. A $110 1/72 Tomcat doesn't make sense. Well, if you think about it, one would have to spend roughly the same amount to bring a Hasegawa up to this level with the various Aires sets, but the FM gives you around the same level of detail without all the sanding and cursing. :)/> Edited June 14, 2015 by White Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 But here's a few shots for reference of one of the markings included. Shot at Miramar 97 det. First time VF-31 carried BOL sidewinder rails and a few months before they got Lantirn pods. Enjoy! I went to the Whiteman AFB airshow that year and was overjoyed to see a Tomcat. But I was puzzled by the Sidewinder rails. They looked so weird! It was only afterwards that I found out they were BOL rails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) The kit looks pretty amazing! Not sure I'll get one at $60+50 for shipping. A $110 1/72 Tomcat doesn't make sense. My calculation shows $51.77 (for 3 x magazines + kit parts ) + about $17.66 ( shipping to US) from HLJ http://www.hlj.com/product/MDGMAG1507/ ( Add to Cart 3 times then scroll over the Yen values to see a window pop up with the US$ value) I'm not including the separate weapons sprue that is coming out with another magazine: http://www.hlj.com/product/mdgsa104 I don't quite like how it looks ( raised panels?) and I can always use spare weapons from my Fujimi Tomcats. Or my spare Hase weapons set to make a bombcat. I do agree that even then, $51.77 + $17.66 = $69.43 is too much for a 1/72 Tomcat but you do get glossy, high quality magazines thrown in ( small comfort,I know). Plus, judging by FM's 1/72 Mitsubishi Zeroes, this will be a very good 1/72 Tomcat. In another thread, I balked at the thought of paying $50 for an upcoming 1/72 SU-24 by Trumpeter but then again, with FM, I know I'd be getting my money's worth. With Trumpeter, not so. Edited June 14, 2015 by JackMan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sarathi S. Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 That PTIDS screen on the rear cockpit looks beautiful. I just wish Hasegawa would update their tooling with one. :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joeltc Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Is anyone going to do some aftermarket decals for this kit? The schemes it comes with don't really excite me. It would be great if Twobobs would do a rerelease of some of their sheets. Some VF-31 line jets would be awesome.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joscasle Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Is anyone going to do some aftermarket decals for this kit? The schemes it comes with don't really excite me. It would be great if Twobobs would do a rerelease of some of their sheets. Some VF-31 line jets would be awesome.. +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GMK Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Anyone seen sprue pics for volume 2 yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Anyone seen sprue pics for volume 2 yet? http://www.hlj.com/product/MDGMAG1508/Boo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Platycqb Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Anyone seen sprue pics for volume 2 yet? Sprues, yes. Available, not yet. Well I didn't get any notification from HLJ anyway. Edit: Well, looks like they are available actually. Edited June 23, 2015 by Platycqb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anders_Isaksson Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I have finally had time to examine the parts from vol. 1, excellent stuff and I'm quite impressed with the overall detail level. However, what's up with the nose wheels? The rims are completely void of any detail - very disappointing on an otherwise impressive set of parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galileo1 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Received my volume 1 parts the other day and was sincerely impressed with the quality (for a 1/72 kit). The only thing I don't like are the seats but everything else is great. I have the weapons sprues on the way and can't wait for volume two. Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 ... I have the weapons sprues on the way ... Rob Rob, when you get the weapons sprues, could you post pics of them? I saw them on HLJ and they looked ( to me) a bit plain (almost as if they were made by another maker rather than the one who made the main Tomcat sprues). Some close up shots would be good. Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galileo1 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Rob, when you get the weapons sprues, could you post pics of them? I saw them on HLJ and they looked ( to me) a bit plain (almost as if they were made by another maker rather than the one who made the main Tomcat sprues). Some close up shots would be good. Thank you :thumbsup:/> Sure thing, Jack. They should be here next week. Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoFo Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) Got my weapons sprues today. They are It is... disappointing. There's nothing particularly wrong with the missiles. Shapes look decent at a cursory glance, panel lines are recessed (mostly). Fins are a little thick, but typical of injected missiles. The let down is in quantity. 4x Phoenix, 2x. Sidewinder, 2x Sparrow, plus a LANTIRN. That's it. It's a tiny little sprue, and I'd have liked to see two of them included, for the price. My other complaint is that the Sparrows only have 3 wings - they're designed to fit the glove pylons and the glove pylons alone, further decreasing flexibility. :(/>/>/> Finally, there's not really anything interesting in the magazine; it's definitely not a reference source that I'll keep for years. There are a few pages dedicated to what looks like potted missile histories/how it works (plus some JASDF ordnance), with tiny, vague B&W photos. There are a few different builds showing the FM kit in various markings, plus a couple other, regular modelling articles. For the most part, the builds aren't super-impressive (we're not talking AIRModeller or TMMI calibre) and they're sparsely illustrated. Maybe it'd help if I read Japanese, but since I don't, I can only judge it on what I can see and basically, it adds zero value to the package. You're pretty much just buying it for the weapons. The set is $20 from HLJ. Hasegawa's weapons sets are about $5: V gives you 4x AIM-9s and 4x AIM-7s which are a little nicer than the FM parts; VII has a LANTIRN; and III has AIM-54s (not nearly as nice as FM's) plus a slew of AIM-7s and -9s (ditto). So for $15, you'll have a full weapons load with the ability to choose your exact loadout, and a slew of spares for other builds. Alternatively, for the same $20 you can get one each of Eduard's resin AIM-7, AIM-9 and AIM-54 sets, each with four missiles (so, more than FM) which are finer and more detailed than the plastic versions. You'd still need to source a LANTIRN though, if you wanted one. Heck, for $20, you can probably find a Revell Germany F-14D and rob it for ordnance, and possibly decals. And each of those alternatives would be a more sensible choice than the FM weapons, IMO. It's a pity as the parts themselves are fine, but when you can get more, better and cheaper elsewhere, there's just no reason to buy FM's missiles. Blurry overview: Sparrow (note: 'top' wing is missing): 'Winder. Phoenix (I'm assuming it's a C?): LANTIRN/pylon (note: head doesn't swivel and seeker is NOT poseable, unlike Hasegawa's): Instructions/decal guide for the parts: Other loadouts you can use if you buy Hasegawa's weapons sets. :(/>/>/> They should have at LEAST included some bombs or *something*: The featured build, from the cover... which you *can not* build using the existing weapons. :bandhead2:/>/>/> Edited June 24, 2015 by MoFo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric B. Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Hi All Part two of model Graphic Magasine + FM F-14D parts are out (released) today. I Received a message note to thank me for payment to HLJ. When checeked it was for second set of parts. Cheers Eric B. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvrle Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Yeah, that weapons set looks... not worth the money... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anders_Isaksson Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Shouldn't there also be at least a couple of GBUs on the set to properly equip a D model Tomcat? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GMK Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Anders, that's what I said a few pages back. Whilst wall-to-wall air to air is possible (& fulfills the Top Gun fantasy), the jet mainly bombed stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
White Wolf Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 The set is $20 from HLJ. Hasegawa's weapons sets are about $5: V gives you 4x AIM-9s and 4x AIM-7s which are a little nicer than the FM parts; VII has a LANTIRN; and III has AIM-54s (not nearly as nice as FM's) plus a slew of AIM-7s and -9s (ditto). So for $15, you'll have a full weapons load with the ability to choose your exact loadout, and a slew of spares for other builds. Alternatively, for the same $20 you can get one each of Eduard's resin AIM-7, AIM-9 and AIM-54 sets, each with four missiles (so, more than FM) which are finer and more detailed than the plastic versions. You'd still need to source a LANTIRN though, if you wanted one. Heck, for $20, you can probably find a Revell Germany F-14D and rob it for ordnance, and possibly decals. And each of those alternatives would be a more sensible choice than the FM weapons, IMO. It's a pity as the parts themselves are fine, but when you can get more, better and cheaper elsewhere, there's just no reason to buy FM's missiles. Could you tell me where I can get all 3 Eduard missile sets for $20? The cheapest I can find is around $40 for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoFo Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 I'm going by the list price on Eduard's website. Czech Koruna converted to USD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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