anvil6 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) small progress update: i have put the C2 console aside for now and started building up the mapboard that goes in the center of the fow of rear facing seats. i also took a closer look at the pilot's seats. they have been bothering me but all these years i have not been able to put my finger on it until i started looking through my pictures again: the seat backs in the kit, and the Cobra Company resin seats are rectangulart in shape, when they should have the corners cut off instead - EDIT: the kit seats and the cobra company seats are a newer version, the seats i need for my Alpha model during 1998 are a different kind, so i will need to back date the pilot seats. i will try to correct the kit's seats before i go and ruin the resin seats. if i am successful, i will share my methods with the forums in case anyone else wants to incorporate the same changes to their models. -Ramon Edited February 10, 2016 by anvil6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Interesting on the seats. I guess they are an earlier version. Current seats (and as far back as I can remember) have the rectangular top profile. Looks like they had shorter crush tubes too. Edited February 8, 2016 by HeavyArty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Interesting on the seats. I guess they are an earlier version. Current seats (and as far back as I can remember) have the rectangular top profile. Looks like they had shorter crush tubes too. at least from 1999 going further back, the pilot seats (at least the ones I encountered in A/L models)were typically as shown in my pic. i do remember going to an airshow sometime around 2008 and the crew chief on the A model on display was telling me about updated pilot seats. that must be the type shown in your pic. That also looks like a non A/L model in your pic too, judging by the instrument panel, center console and cabin floor. M model perhaps? -Ramon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Yes, either a current MH-60M or MH-60S model. Interesting all the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 So I was able to get to my workbench for a brief session and got a bit more progress on this build. I enlarged the opening for the APU exhaust pipe and started building up the floor details in the cockpit just inside the chin bubble windows... I also painted the knobs on the C2 console and dragged a silver pencil along some of the edges to replicate bare metal under scratched paint. Trying to decide if I made the C2 console and map boards the correct dimensions (roughly) I placed the seats on the floors to allow me to gauge the size relative to the seats. This brings me to one of my gripes with Academy's attempt at a UH-60A/L kit: Academy shorts you one troop seat! The standard configuration from the factory was the two crew chief seats at each window, facing sideways relative to the direction of flight, then a row of three forward facing seats (the middle seat is centered on the cabin floor), then a row of 4 rear facing seats, right up against and staggered with the first row of troop seats, and then a row of four more forward facing seats against the back wall of the cabin. As per instructions, the kit only gives you 3 rear facing seats and although technically not incorrect since there are many different ways to configure the seating arrangement to suit the mission, it is incomplete. This is not a big deal to most, but again it only rubs my OCD the wrong way because I used to be a crew chief. The good news is that because of the two aircraft I am representing, I will still have enough seats to go around since the C2 bird has the map board take up the space of two rear facing seats, and the medevac bird I will build later will have the carousel in the middle instead of the first two rows of troop seats. The nice thing about these seats though is that at least Academy did a good job representing the seat legs instead of how they are in the 1/48 scale kit. Next up, it might be time to finally put legs on the seats and map board. -Ramon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Looking good. I agree on the Academy seat shorting. I ended up using extra seats from another kit as well to have the full compliment of seats in one of mine as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Looking good. I agree on the Academy seat shorting. I ended up using extra seats from another kit as well to have the full compliment of seats in one of mine as well. Thanks dude! :) -Ramon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salvador001 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Keep that great work, im following this step by step. Rod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) duplicate comment deleted Edited February 19, 2016 by anvil6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 My progress comes in small measurements... I fixed the angle of the pilot seat frames so that the seat floor rails were at a right angle to the mount tubes. That one almost slipped past me. I striped the seat release handles black and yellow and started to carve the seat backs with my Dremel. The plan is to build the cushions up with Milliput but we will see how I do with that... -Ramon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Wow, wow, wow, totally awesome work so far on the hawk Ramon!!! Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Thanks Tim! :-D -Ramon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 I was sick in bed for a week, but I am mostly over that cold now. Got a chance to go back to my work bench last night and built up the seat back cushions and lumbar support pads with Milliput. They are not exactly symetrical but hopefully a little carving and painting and they will pass. Otherwise I can carve away what's there and reapply some Milliput... -Ramon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) Good job so far. Carving and sanding does wonders. I recognize that book!!!😎 Tim Edited March 2, 2016 by hawkwrench Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salvador001 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Do i really have to modify the seats just like you or can i leave them just like they are. Great job! Rod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) Do i really have to modify the seats just like you or can i leave them just like they are. Great job! Rod. Hi Rod! If you are going for accuracy and a pre-global war on terror time period, (mine are from the 1990's time period) the seats are closer to what I have done. if you are doing a more modern version, or are not as concerned with little nit-picky details that most people will never notice, the squared off seats are fine. Ultimately though, its your model so do it to please yourself and it will be great! :) -Ramon Edited March 2, 2016 by anvil6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Made the lower seat cushions and the first aid kits that hang behind the head rest out of more Milliput. Slowly but surely... -Ramon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salvador001 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Looking good Ramon. Well, i plan to build a generic army national guard medevac from the mid 2000s. Rod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Using bad pictures and worse memory as references, I have added the ICS cables, seat position adjustment cables, and inertia reel locking cables. I also added the storage pouch that is behind the right hand pilot seat, and made little seat adjustment handles out of wine bottle foil. Now the seats are ready to paint! -Ramon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salvador001 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Damn, those seats are fantastic, ill save your photos for mine. Rod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 Thanks Rod! :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rotorman Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 great looking seats Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Fanfreakingtastic work on those seats! Coming along well. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Thanks guys! :D -Ramon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Youngtiger1 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Great work inside the cabin. Those seats are looking awesome! Can't wait to see more of your work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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