markmarples Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 the the history of the plane reveals 2 things, the sharks mouth was there before the extra sqn markings were applied, ie originally it had a black nose(as seen in the photo) but later in its life, its nose was painted blue and the checked markings on the fuselage were applied so that makes me think the mouth wasnt the same colour as the nose, as it would have been applied previously at a different station please bear with me this is going to be a slow build in this photo the checkers have been applied and reports for the aircrew at the time and shortly after state theses were white and blue, i have no reason to doubt these however looking at the photo i think its a darker blue than airfix have it i think i can rule out camo underneath as the colours dont match whats on the airframe, so that leaves me with 3 possibilities i think, as Dave suggests they would have used what was available, so..... RED, BLUE or BLACK, now the 'lip' around the edges is widely agreed as black (and i think i read somewhere last night) that this was black according to a aircrew member. looking at the pictures i think the colour may be the same? what do you guys think? moving on slightly these arrived reading various sources on the net, there appears to be different opinions about the colours of the typhoon however i plan to use the colours suggested by R C Jones and R L Ward in 'Camouflage & Markings - Hawker Tornado, Typhoon and Tempest - RAF Northern Europe 1936-45' these are listed as: Wheel Wells, and Wheel Hubs - Aluminium / bare metal gun bays, were actually lined with leather to reduce vibration so were a brown colour Radiator plates, grills and intakes - depending on which factory made the aircraft these were either Aluminium or MSG (medium sea grey) Cockpits until mid 1942 these were interior green (including the seat) these were subsequently changed to matt black, however odd aircraft were painted golss black and those who were repaired may have had a mixture of the 2 ie green cockpit and black seat or vise versa. however by mid 43 most had been rendered matt black camo - this used standard temperate camo of 'dark green' (that was the official designation) / ocean grey upper surfaces and MSG lower surfaces anyway first up ive sprayed the interior frame work flat aluminum as surgested in my refs the next step i was planning to use the hairspray technique to add black and weather it, unfortunatley Ruth hasnt got any hairspray i can liberate (and i dont have much call for iit) so instead im going to try Klear, the highlighted areas are Kleared ready for a Nato Black coat so while that was drying is glued and clamped the first wing spar, the tollerances on this kit are tiny so make sure you clean each bit up as there are some very fine bits of flash ok the Klear worked, when the NATO Black was dry i rubbed the black with rough piece of sand paper very lightly and got some nice results, the technique needs work but has potential Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted May 18, 2015 Author Share Posted May 18, 2015 final update of the day not sure you could see the hairspray effect that well, so here some photos of the 'foot' marks before after and there it is in place thats it for today Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 well not much done as ive been boarding out the loft and adding shelves to SWMBO's craft cupboard anyway..... seat is done with the addition of some eduard belts, the shoulder harness will attach to the armour plating and be added separate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Seat in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 ok 2 things too know about this kit, the tolerances between parts are 0%!!! and you really must trim and test fit every part, the second thing to know is that you must invest in a good set of tweezers and a third arm ok, im still assembling the cockpit, and there's plenty more to go, to my eyes are aching for the concentration so thats it for now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 not much today as i start nights tonight, but ive made a start in the instrument panel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taggor Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 not much today as i start nights tonight, but ive made a start in the instrument panel I would say that you have accomplished quite a bit from what I can see. At 1/24 you have LOADS of detail. Just the structure of the cockpit and wing spars has my head spinning so, yeah..... I think you have made lots of progress! By the way, I do shift work too and it really does take a toll on ones model time! -Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 thanks mate ok today i received this, and well as i havent got any 1/24 rally cars, it must mean i have to turn them in to ww2 typhoon ground crew and heres the progress on the panel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Mark, Nicely done on such a detailed large scale model. I've read on a few builds of this kit that as you've said, there is zero tolerance to parts fit. Every drop of paint needs to be removed before gluing up joints or there will be a price to be paid when those parts are joined as a sub assembly. Will be following your build with great interest. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 thanks Joel Update 5 well the cockpit is now done, and its time to move on to the 2nd mini kit, the engine i think the tub has turned out ok, my plans for this build are changing a little as time goes on. im seriously considering leaving the cowl on as im thinking of making this, a quick re-fuel / re-arm diorama like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 (edited) Mark, The completed cockpit is just amazing. I've seen it a few times before, but I never tire of the complexity of detail that 1/24 scale offers. Nice idea for a diorama, but covering too much of that engine compartment may be not the best way to go. Maybe leave another panel or two off. Joel Edited May 26, 2015 by Joel_W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 well work has begun on the engine, sadly very little can be done without installing it into the frame work now heres the first flaw in the kit some sink marks that need filling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Mark, The engine really looks quite good installed in its cradle. Nice job of dry brushing that just popped out those engine details. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 That cockpit looks amazing ! Top notch work. Regards, Don. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Well progress has been good but in-reality it doesnt look like ive done much, however ive added 40+ parts, that you will never ever see i do have concerns about the width of the engine, some of the parts are very tight and dont fit well making me think the engine is too wide, however i wont be able to tell properly until its all built and the sides of the body are added ok things get complex and tricky, this pipe (on both sides) needed to be slitted through a hole then twisted to fit on the frame, this 1 pipe alone took me 2hrs this morning to do a bit of engine detail heres where i am Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 i actually feel like i have made some progress today the bottom wing is going on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 right work has begun on the gun bays, now my research surgests that these were linned with Leather to reduce vibrations, Airfix would have you paint them brown, which makes me think they agree. anyway to add a bit of texture is lined these with kitchen roll, painted leather, i have a lot more to do including weathering the leather and gun rack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Mark, Your precision approach to one detailed part after another, certainly makes for a smooth assembly. I've heard that the parts fit so precisely, that any paint on matting surfaces will cause issues down the road. The gun bay lining certainly looks like leather. Nicely done. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 OF NOTE when building the ammunition boxes, the parts for the bullets are incorrectly numbered Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 well both gun bays are done and ready next up is the fuel tanks, now im not going to paint them in aluminium as per the instructions as i believe they would be a red primer colour the same as hurricanes, anyway if im wrong you wont see them anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 guns and tanks done! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Mark, Just an incredibly detailed kit, extremely well built. I'm really enjoying following along. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 I think I need a bigger base Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markmarples Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 one minute its there then its gone!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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