Fighting Eighty-Four Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 59 minutes ago, a4s4eva said: I'd like to see the clear parts. I hope you did away with the multi part canopy I believe they are including both a one piece and multi-part canopy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shion Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 hours ago, a4s4eva said: I'd like to see the clear parts. I hope you did away with the multi part canopy I already gave a link about them: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5847314718 No surprise, it's a fail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Roof Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, shion said: I already gave a link about them: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5847314718 No surprise, it's a fail. How exactly is it a 'fail'? If you look closely, they provide both options, so it is a win-win. Modelers that don't like the multi-piece option don't have to use it, they can use the one piece option. Modelers that think the multi-piece option is great will be able to use it. Either way, everyone will be able to use whichever parts they choose to. I honestly cannot grasp just how negative several of you seem to be over this kit. First and foremost, it is a plastic model airplane. Your life or well being doesn't depend on it. You're still going to get up in the morning and go about your normal daily routine. No one's lives are going to be affected in any way, shape or form. AMK has done everything they can to address everyone's concerns and most still aren't happy! Seriously, get a life! The pathetic and childish whining over this kit is unbelievable. Grown as$ men bitching and whining like little kids in a toy store that can't have what they want. It's embarrassing. Edited September 20, 2018 by Dave Roof Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eraucubsfan Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 42 minutes ago, Dave Roof said: How exactly is it a 'fail'? If you look closely, they provide both options, so it is a win-win. Modelers that don't like the multi-piece option don't have to use it, they can use the one piece option. Modelers that think the multi-piece option is great will be able to use it. Either way, everyone will be able to use whichever parts they choose to. I honestly cannot grasp just how negative several of you seem to be over this kit. First and foremost, it is a plastic model airplane. Your life or well being doesn't depend on it. You're still going to get up in the morning and go about your normal daily routine. No one's lives are going to be affected in any way, shape or form. AMK has done everything they can to address everyone's concerns and most still aren't happy! Seriously, get a life! The pathetic and childish whining over this kit is unbelievable. Grown as$ men bitching and whining like little kids in a toy store that can't have what they want. It's embarrassing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shion Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Dave Roof said: How exactly is it a 'fail'? If you look closely, they provide both options, so it is a win-win. Modelers that don't like the multi-piece option don't have to use it, they can use the one piece option. Modelers that think the multi-piece option is great will be able to use it. Either way, everyone will be able to use whichever parts they choose to. I honestly cannot grasp just how negative several of you seem to be over this kit. First and foremost, it is a plastic model airplane. Your life or well being doesn't depend on it. You're still going to get up in the morning and go about your normal daily routine. No one's lives are going to be affected in any way, shape or form. AMK has done everything they can to address everyone's concerns and most still aren't happy! Seriously, get a life! The pathetic and childish whining over this kit is unbelievable. Grown as$ men bitching and whining like little kids in a toy store that can't have what they want. It's embarrassing. It's a fail because you can already see the singular thickness and the fact that the numerous parts don't match. Yes, they provide a remplacement part, but sorry, if I remember right, here AMK said that their idea (multiple-piece canopy) was an innovation. Parts which don't match isn't an innovation or a bonus for modelers. And it's not classic PE plain parts, it's clear (and brittle) parts, so good luck to sand, blend and adjust it. And critics towards AMK is proportionnal to communication they provided. You can not present you project as -and I quote- "the world’s best ever model kit of the F-14 Tomcat in 1/48 scale" and don't expect critics when it isn't the fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stalal Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Dave Roof said: How exactly is it a 'fail'? If you look closely, they provide both options, so it is a win-win. Modelers that don't like the multi-piece option don't have to use it, they can use the one piece option. Modelers that think the multi-piece option is great will be able to use it. Either way, everyone will be able to use whichever parts they choose to. I honestly cannot grasp just how negative several of you seem to be over this kit. First and foremost, it is a plastic model airplane. Your life or well being doesn't depend on it. You're still going to get up in the morning and go about your normal daily routine. No one's lives are going to be affected in any way, shape or form. AMK has done everything they can to address everyone's concerns and most still aren't happy! Seriously, get a life! The pathetic and childish whining over this kit is unbelievable. Grown as$ men bitching and whining like little kids in a toy store that can't have what they want. It's embarrassing. 👍👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeffreyK Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Dave Roof said: How exactly is it a 'fail'? If you look closely, they provide both options, so it is a win-win. Modelers that don't like the multi-piece option don't have to use it, they can use the one piece option. Modelers that think the multi-piece option is great will be able to use it. Either way, everyone will be able to use whichever parts they choose to. I honestly cannot grasp just how negative several of you seem to be over this kit. First and foremost, it is a plastic model airplane. Your life or well being doesn't depend on it. You're still going to get up in the morning and go about your normal daily routine. No one's lives are going to be affected in any way, shape or form. AMK has done everything they can to address everyone's concerns and most still aren't happy! Seriously, get a life! The pathetic and childish whining over this kit is unbelievable. Grown as$ men bitching and whining like little kids in a toy store that can't have what they want. It's embarrassing. 👍👍👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
polybebber Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Dave Roof said: How exactly is it a 'fail'? If you look closely, they provide both options, so it is a win-win. Modelers that don't like the multi-piece option don't have to use it, they can use the one piece option. Modelers that think the multi-piece option is great will be able to use it. Either way, everyone will be able to use whichever parts they choose to. I honestly cannot grasp just how negative several of you seem to be over this kit. First and foremost, it is a plastic model airplane. Your life or well being doesn't depend on it. You're still going to get up in the morning and go about your normal daily routine. No one's lives are going to be affected in any way, shape or form. AMK has done everything they can to address everyone's concerns and most still aren't happy! Seriously, get a life! The pathetic and childish whining over this kit is unbelievable. Grown as$ men bitching and whining like little kids in a toy store that can't have what they want. It's embarrassing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Dave Roof said: How exactly is it a 'fail'?... +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Dave Roof said: How exactly is it a 'fail'? If you look closely, they provide both options, so it is a win-win. Modelers that don't like the multi-piece option don't have to use it, they can use the one piece option. Modelers that think the multi-piece option is great will be able to use it. Either way, everyone will be able to use whichever parts they choose to. I honestly cannot grasp just how negative several of you seem to be over this kit. First and foremost, it is a plastic model airplane. Your life or well being doesn't depend on it. You're still going to get up in the morning and go about your normal daily routine. No one's lives are going to be affected in any way, shape or form. AMK has done everything they can to address everyone's concerns and most still aren't happy! Seriously, get a life! The pathetic and childish whining over this kit is unbelievable. Grown as$ men bitching and whining like little kids in a toy store that can't have what they want. It's embarrassing. Well said! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 It looks to be a beautiful kit which I hope to build someday along with the Tamiya offerings. The only beef I have ever had was the pre-sale and continuing changes in the release date. That said, it does appear closer than ever and here in the States I would hope we see it in our hands prior to Christmas 2018. I am NOT a Tomcat groupie which sorta puts my knowledge of the aircraft at a great disadvantage. Those of your who are, will help me with the build later on. Party on boys! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, anvil6 said: Well said! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
viper730 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 7 hours ago, shion said: I already gave a link about them: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5847314718 No surprise, it's a fail. How about some 🧀with that 🍷 Well said Dave! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IAGeezer Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Dave Roof said: How exactly is it a 'fail'? If you look closely, they provide both options, so it is a win-win. Modelers that don't like the multi-piece option don't have to use it, they can use the one piece option. Modelers that think the multi-piece option is great will be able to use it. Either way, everyone will be able to use whichever parts they choose to. I honestly cannot grasp just how negative several of you seem to be over this kit. First and foremost, it is a plastic model airplane. Your life or well being doesn't depend on it. You're still going to get up in the morning and go about your normal daily routine. No one's lives are going to be affected in any way, shape or form. AMK has done everything they can to address everyone's concerns and most still aren't happy! Seriously, get a life! The pathetic and childish whining over this kit is unbelievable. Grown as$ men bitching and whining like little kids in a toy store that can't have what they want. It's embarrassing. - And Roof knocks it outta the ballpark!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andrew.deboer Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I’m gonna need two: one for the launch diorama and one for final approach/landing. *sigh* Guess it’s time to order up a pile of figures from Reedoak for that launch scene!😀 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Dave, You are so right. Some people would moan if they won the lottery. Talk about looking a (potential) gift horse in the mouth. My mind boggles at the negativity. Everyone has a right to their own (bigoted) opinions, but if you look at the quality of AMK's kits so far I do not get it. At least we have the seasons discussion behind us now - ironic seeing as it's the 20th of September today. Admire you for speaking out against the fundamentalists Dave - its supposed to be about fun here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 7 hours ago, Dave Roof said: How exactly is it a 'fail'? If you look closely, they provide both options, so it is a win-win. Modelers that don't like the multi-piece option don't have to use it, they can use the one piece option. Modelers that think the multi-piece option is great will be able to use it. Either way, everyone will be able to use whichever parts they choose to. I honestly cannot grasp just how negative several of you seem to be over this kit. First and foremost, it is a plastic model airplane. Your life or well being doesn't depend on it. You're still going to get up in the morning and go about your normal daily routine. No one's lives are going to be affected in any way, shape or form. AMK has done everything they can to address everyone's concerns and most still aren't happy! Seriously, get a life! The pathetic and childish whining over this kit is unbelievable. Grown as$ men bitching and whining like little kids in a toy store that can't have what they want. It's embarrassing. X1! Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Here's my take. Before going into a sobbing fit in the weeping room, maybe you need to look at the real thing! I did!! That's the best canopy out there period. The frame work is right, the shape of the curve is correct. Unlike some others. Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Dave Roof said: How exactly is it a 'fail'? If you look closely, they provide both options, so it is a win-win. Modelers that don't like the multi-piece option don't have to use it, they can use the one piece option. Modelers that think the multi-piece option is great will be able to use it. Either way, everyone will be able to use whichever parts they choose to. I honestly cannot grasp just how negative several of you seem to be over this kit. First and foremost, it is a plastic model airplane. Your life or well being doesn't depend on it. You're still going to get up in the morning and go about your normal daily routine. No one's lives are going to be affected in any way, shape or form. AMK has done everything they can to address everyone's concerns and most still aren't happy! Seriously, get a life! The pathetic and childish whining over this kit is unbelievable. Grown as$ men bitching and whining like little kids in a toy store that can't have what they want. It's embarrassing. Dave, its the same reasoning and the same people that complain about things like the shape of the Z-M F-4 rear fuselage. Im of the opinion that if it’s not what you’re exactly looking for then don’t buy the damn thing. If you want it to be an exact replica then that person should either a) make it themselves or b) go buy a real one. If it looks like a F-14 then it’s a f*^%ing F-14!! Edited September 20, 2018 by Whiskey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) I don't see where anyone has an actual production copy of this kit or is able to make any actual determination about what fits/works and what doesn't. I think the multipart canopy has a lot of potential and hope it works. If not, I'll use the 1-piece. But until I see a production kit, I'm really not worried about it. I can't wait for this kit. And in the meantime, I have a pile of Tamiya kits to not finish. Edited September 20, 2018 by Brian P: Fightertown Decals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-10 LOADER Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Brian P: Fightertown Decals said: I don't see where anyone has an actual production copy of this kit or is able to make any actual determination about what fits/works and what doesn't. I think the multiparty canopy has a lot of potential and hope it works. If not, I'll use the 1-piece. But until I see a production kit, I'm really. It worried about it. I can't ant wait for this kit. And I t he meantime, I have a pile of Tamiya kits to not finish. Agree 100% Steve "TOMCATS FOREVER, BABY...!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doppelgänger Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Looks as though the jocks had been exercising a lot inside... Steamy windows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shion Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Brian P: Fightertown Decals said: I don't see where anyone has an actual production copy of this kit or is able to make any actual determination about what fits/works and what doesn't. I think the multiparty canopy has a lot of potential and hope it works. If not, I'll use the 1-piece. But until I see a production kit, I'm really. It worried about it. I can't ant wait for this kit. And I t he meantime, I have a pile of Tamiya kits to not finish. Months ago, people talked here about the multipart canopy design. Consensus was it's not a good idea, injection parts tolerances don't match with this kind of adjustements and cutting a clear part is already a hassle, but cutting and glueing a clear part in the clear area is a big no-no. Reason why people on FB and here ask vehemently for a single part canopy. Finally, we've got a multipart canopy and a single part one. And you can take a look on the photos, provided, the multipart canopy show the edges of the transparents part at several areas. How modelers gonna glue them? So it's a little ironic, without the critics months ago about these design, no single part canopy. But ironically, people call now the same critics fundamentalists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) I know that I am "dipping my toe into TomcatLand", but, I see a Choice, with a backup plan already in the box. Got the cockpit all detailed out and you want to open the canopy, try that option,,,,,,it turns out not to your liking,,,,use the other canopy option. (or try again with another kit from the stash) Beats the heck out of trying to razor saw clear parts to make multi-piece canopies from a one piece clear part. And attaching those clear parts to the frame shouldn't be any harder than attaching clear parts to the solid plastic of the fuselage. If a modeler can't do the latter, he'd never build the kit in the first place. (yeah, I know, that options adds 47 cents per box to the final cost of the model, making it totally unaffordable for some) Edited September 20, 2018 by Rex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GW8345 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Dave Roof said: How exactly is it a 'fail'? If you look closely, they provide both options, so it is a win-win. Modelers that don't like the multi-piece option don't have to use it, they can use the one piece option. Modelers that think the multi-piece option is great will be able to use it. Either way, everyone will be able to use whichever parts they choose to. I honestly cannot grasp just how negative several of you seem to be over this kit. First and foremost, it is a plastic model airplane. Your life or well being doesn't depend on it. You're still going to get up in the morning and go about your normal daily routine. No one's lives are going to be affected in any way, shape or form. AMK has done everything they can to address everyone's concerns and most still aren't happy! Seriously, get a life! The pathetic and childish whining over this kit is unbelievable. Grown as$ men bitching and whining like little kids in a toy store that can't have what they want. It's embarrassing. Well said sir Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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