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1 hour ago, dylan said:

I never noticed how shallow those step recesses were.

 

Look too shallow, if one wants to be picky about it. :whistle:

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Yes, I know its an "A" version. To my knowledge, the steps didn't change between versions.

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- headrest proportions seem off.

- recessed steps seem to shallow and proportions seem off too.

- details seem shallow.

- some recessed lines seem shallow, others too deep and wide.

- they just decided to put a heavy recessed line all the way, out of nowhere: http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/howard_mason2/f-14d/images/f-14d_050_of_103.jpg.

This line exists, but is almost invisible in real life: https://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/030415-N-4142G-141.jpg

 

Most "surprising" thing is how warped these parts are.

Look at the two-part headrest, this gap.

Look at the separated inner wall part and how it doesn't fit with fuselage part.

 

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You know worst comes to worst, at The price of the preorder with the free misile set its still cheaper then those resin wings for the Tamiya tomcat. As long as the wings are nice! 

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For me it looks fine. Cockpit seems to be more detailed then Tamiya F-14D, but panel lines looks a little too shallow.

Of course I whish to see better pictures, but this doesn't look bad. It could be nice if this long waiting come to the end.

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1 hour ago, Solo said:

For me it looks fine. Cockpit seems to be more detailed then Tamiya F-14D, but panel lines looks a little too shallow.

Of course I whish to see better pictures, but this doesn't look bad. It could be nice if this long waiting come to the end.

I agree about the cockpit being better. The Tamiya cockpits in their F-14's are pretty poor and for the most part fictitious.

 

Dave

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8 hours ago, xavi84 said:

Is it just me or do these seats look a lot like Boba Fett?

 

You're right! Its uncanny, they are identical. :whistle:

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5 hours ago, shion said:

- headrest proportions seem off.

- recessed steps seem to shallow and proportions seem off too.

- details seem shallow.

- some recessed lines seem shallow, others too deep and wide.

- they just decided to put a heavy recessed line all the way, out of nowhere: http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/howard_mason2/f-14d/images/f-14d_050_of_103.jpg.

This line exists, but is almost invisible in real life: https://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/030415-N-4142G-141.jpg

 

Most "surprising" thing is how warped these parts are.

Look at the two-part headrest, this gap.

Look at the separated inner wall part and how it doesn't fit with fuselage part.

 

 

So, all negative and not a single positive? That speaks volumes about the bias you have with this kit. Let's address each one of your criticisms. 

- If the proportions of the headrest are off, it's not that noticeable. The seats are serviceable, especially if you're going to put aircrew in them. I would assume most will get aftermarket seats anyway.

- Most, if not all, Tomcat kits have step wells that are too shallow. The vast majority of builds will have them up, so it's a trivial thing.

- Which details are you referring to that are too shallow? The cockpit detail looks pretty decent to me.

- Are there more pictures that I'm missing? There are only a couple of visible panel lines in the picture. I'm not sure any definitive conclusion can be drawn from this single picture.

- If you a referring to the line beneath the canopy sill, you would be correct.

- There are a lot lines on various models that exist but are invisible in real life.

- I'm not sure "warped" is the correct term. You can't judge fit by one picture. We have no idea who put the parts together. We tend to think that everyone who works at a model company is a modeler. That is totally false. The lack of fit can very easily (and probably is) because of the builder, not the parts.

 

If I were judging the kit just from this single picture, I'd probably put it at a 7.5-8/10. If released right now, it would probably be in the top three or four, depending on what you want out of a model. However, I'll wait until I can actually build it and then I'll make some decisions.

 

 

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I am sure the two boarding steps are made that way since the whole cockpit section is a one part moulded part.

 

Examining parts / sprues on show at Moson some of the fine design features were evident. Looking at parts not only as a modeller but also from a stand point of parts break down and engineering. The actual cockpit tab slides into the one part front section from behind on rails inside for good fit. I guess that a particular front section wall thickness had to be kept for injection moulding and to get the tab inside. I don’t think that the depth of the steps is any problem.

 

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Gabor

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1 hour ago, Darren Roberts said:

- Most, if not all, Tomcat kits have step wells that are too shallow. The vast majority of builds will have them up, so it's a trivial thing.

 

You are correct. Here's a pic of Tamiya's. About the same depth (I know, the pic is kinda small. Weren't many pics that I found that I could upload directly to ARC).

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I'd say that, so far, the cockpit looks OK. There are more pics online, but I am hesitant to post them. Not sure if I'll get in trouble. Don't want to lose my access to their Facebook page just yet.

 

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3 hours ago, Darren Roberts said:

 

I hate to say it, but they're all toys.

You will burn in Wakanda for what you had said , I have a box that says 'Its not a toy, intended for children 40+'...

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4 hours ago, Darren Roberts said:

 

So, all negative and not a single positive? That speaks volumes about the bias you have with this kit. Let's address each one of your criticisms. 

- If the proportions of the headrest are off, it's not that noticeable. The seats are serviceable, especially if you're going to put aircrew in them. I would assume most will get aftermarket seats anyway.

- Most, if not all, Tomcat kits have step wells that are too shallow. The vast majority of builds will have them up, so it's a trivial thing.

- Which details are you referring to that are too shallow? The cockpit detail looks pretty decent to me.

- Are there more pictures that I'm missing? There are only a couple of visible panel lines in the picture. I'm not sure any definitive conclusion can be drawn from this single picture.

- If you a referring to the line beneath the canopy sill, you would be correct.

- There are a lot lines on various models that exist but are invisible in real life.

- I'm not sure "warped" is the correct term. You can't judge fit by one picture. We have no idea who put the parts together. We tend to think that everyone who works at a model company is a modeler. That is totally false. The lack of fit can very easily (and probably is) because of the builder, not the parts.

 

If I were judging the kit just from this single picture, I'd probably put it at a 7.5-8/10. If released right now, it would probably be in the top three or four, depending on what you want out of a model. However, I'll wait until I can actually build it and then I'll make some decisions.

 

 

Not intending this to be aggressive so please don't take it that way but I think the point of view that either the seat parts will be covered by pilots (which is probably more rare than open cockpit builds) or they will be replaced is not a good excuse (and I know it's not you who are excusing, just in general I mean). Same with the steps being shallow. True, some will build with closed but I bet MOST will have them open and just because everyone missed the depth in the past doesn't excuse the most accurate F-14 model of all times having them wrong. I do however agree you can't judge the seat and seal seam based on that pic. They might be dry fit or like you say an amateur builder put it together.

 

Overall I am still cautiously optimistic about the model BUT I wouldn't say you could overlook the posted concerns. Because, at least in my eyes, they are legitimate concerns. The fact other manufactures have the same errors doesn't change if it's correct or not.  The canopy seal detail is a nice touch, something I've often wondered why not many companies have tackled that on many jets. Still keeping an eye out for this one, just not real warm and fuzzy yet.

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