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1 hour ago, Timvkampen said:

where are we on this one. Release date? 😁

If you came to this thread earnestly looking for news, you are about 175 pages too late, maybe more. 🤨

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1 hour ago, sierrascale said:

My guess (just my WAG opinion) is that they ran out of money for ordering plastic pellets, hiring packaging people to make up the kits and have no money to ship the kits to distributors. Probably trying feverishly to get industrial or consumer goods injection molding jobs to fund it.

Just a guess. Why else is it taking so long? They've had the molds and decals for weeks (months?) now. They keep showing the parts at shows, so must have a few test runs. But no production yet. As they say: "it takes money to make money."

 

I think it's the best proving point of your theory.

They really seem to not have fund anymore, their presentation of the kit (in all these hobby shows) is and keep being really poor, unprofessional and strange.

It really looks like they're trying to hide something, about this kit or the company itself.

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3 hours ago, sierrascale said:

My guess (just my WAG opinion) is that they ran out of money for ordering plastic pellets, hiring packaging people to make up the kits and have no money to ship the kits to distributors. Probably trying feverishly to get industrial or consumer goods injection molding jobs to fund it.

Just a guess. Why else is it taking so long? They've had the molds and decals for weeks (months?) now. They keep showing the parts at shows, so must have a few test runs. But no production yet. As they say: "it takes money to make money."

that is most likely the case. however AMK have bragged in the past about how busy their main injection molding business was doing.

and to the second part. they were doing test shots on the kit on August 19 2018, and showed the decals on the FB page Sept 3 2018. so just shy of a year

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Hey, when had we renderings of F-14D GWH 1:48? I believe at september of 2018, and still there is no sign of kit available.

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17 minutes ago, Solo said:

Hey, when had we renderings of F-14D GWH 1:48? I believe at september of 2018, and still there is no sign of kit available.


August or September of last year..usually GWH follows about a year to 18 months later with the kit. 

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40 minutes ago, Solo said:

Hey, when had we renderings of F-14D GWH 1:48? I believe at september of 2018, and still there is no sign of kit available.

 

It was announced together with 1/72 kit. 1/72 was just released so I suppose 48th is coming soon.

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So AMK showed test shots on August, GWH on September, and for both we are awaiting for kit launch, but the problem is only with AMK.

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I note that Hannants seem to have a recent restock of all AMK's kits. Fundraising?

 

Jon

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3 minutes ago, Solo said:

So AMK showed test shots on August, GWH on September, and for both we are awaiting for kit launch, but the problem is only with AMK.

 

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/amk-88007-f-14d-super-tomcat-preorder#/

Estimated shipping December 2017. Test sprues August 2018.

 

Where have you seen test sprues of GWH 1/48 F-14? I have seen 3D renders only. 

Would be funny if GWH release their F-14 soon and it take lesser time from early 3D render to ready kit than AMK from test mold to finished model.

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You have not seen test shots of a GWH 1/48 F-14 kit.  They are not to that point yet.

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On 7/19/2019 at 2:37 PM, Hubbie Marsten said:

Speaking of bite and the Jaws sign in the background of that McFly meme, I kind of could feel the sound cue of the big shark slowly marauding its victim in the film, but in the form of @terrysumner, very close round this thread. :rofl: 

Nahh...not yet...  I'll wait till it gets to page 199

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40 minutes ago, terrysumner said:

Nahh...not yet...  I'll wait till it gets to page 199

 

You have to wait until after September 20th regardless of what page we're on.

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The future (and the past) depends on it! 👽

 

 

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In all seriousness...

Are there any legit AMK supporters/defenders anymore?


Like 100% true believers? 

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I am over the AMK Tomcat. Just ask HobbyEasy if I can get a shop credit. Really have enough Tamiya/Hasegawa ones in stash, but if it turns out to be ok  once released, may reorder one in future. I did like some of their earlier kits.

 

Cheers Steve

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7 minutes ago, Jonathan_Lotton said:

Like 100% true believers?

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30 minutes ago, Zactoman said:

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If I squint my eyes really hard ... it looks like a Tomcat to me. 

 

😎

 

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13 hours ago, Jonathan_Lotton said:

In all seriousness...

Are there any legit AMK supporters/defenders anymore?


Like 100% true believers? 

 

I wouldn't call myself a defender, but neither am I going to bash them. If they release the Tomcat, I'll get it. It looks decent even with the problems. If it never gets released, then so be it. 

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How do you define a good kit? What are acceptable mistakes? What is a brake point in getting or not getting a kit?

 

A quite note (and maybe a parallel): I have been doing for the past few weeks the brand new Eduard MiG-21 bis kit which everyone praised at the beginning of the decade as a perfect representation of the Fishbed. I am not speaking of the nose issue, back in 2011 Mr Sulc asked me to give him a list of problems which should be corrected for future releases. I did for him a several page list of things to do. In the past years put both the MF and bis kit aside (waiting for a good opportunity), but now with that Hungarian marking I have to do it (if for nothing else just to see what I have designed for them on that decal).

 

I can safely say now that about 40 % of the original kit remains untouched, (forget the nose) mostly wrong panels, wrong measurements, wrong shape items, lack of detail, wrong details . . .    In many cases they simply assumed that everything is symmetrical on left and right while on the real aircraft they are not. And made the design as simple as possible with too many compromises (be it technological or financial). This is not solely about the 21 bis version but about MF, SMT and all the others too. Now the sad thing is that the same silly mistakes were repeated 2 years ago on the 72nd scale version even that they were told of the problems and had plenty of time (how many years it is since 2011 to 2018??) to correct the design on the 72nd. In the end it is a straight downscale of the 48th kit. :((

 

 

SO how do you define a good kit? How responsible are manufacturers in listening to opinions, what do they do and what not even if told? Will we buy the kit? and make do with problems be they minor or bigger?

 

Best regards

Gabor  

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25 minutes ago, ya-gabor said:

How do you define a good kit? What are acceptable mistakes? What is a brake point in getting or not getting a kit?

 

A quite note (and maybe a parallel): I have been doing for the past few weeks the brand new Eduard MiG-21 bis kit which everyone praised at the beginning of the decade as a perfect representation of the Fishbed. I am not speaking of the nose issue, back in 2011 Mr Sulc asked me to give him a list of problems which should be corrected for future releases. I did for him a several page list of things to do. In the past years put both the MF and bis kit aside (waiting for a good opportunity), but now with that Hungarian marking I have to do it (if for nothing else just to see what I have designed for them on that decal).

 

I can safely say now that about 40 % of the original kit remains untouched, (forget the nose) mostly wrong panels, wrong measurements, wrong shape items, lack of detail, wrong details . . .    In many cases they simply assumed that everything is symmetrical on left and right while on the real aircraft they are not. And made the design as simple as possible with too many compromises (be it technological or financial). This is not solely about the 21 bis version but about MF, SMT and all the others too. Now the sad thing is that the same silly mistakes were repeated 2 years ago on the 72nd scale version even that they were told of the problems and had plenty of time (how many years it is since 2011 to 2018??) to correct the design on the 72nd. In the end it is a straight downscale of the 48th kit. :((

 

 

SO how do you define a good kit? How responsible are manufacturers in listening to opinions, what do they do and what not even if told? Will we buy the kit? and make do with problems be they minor or bigger?

 

Best regards

Gabor  

 

It is really personal. Isn't it?

 

For me Hobbyboss F-14 is a good kit. Yes! I said it! 😄

 

If I have the choice between GWH Su-35 and Kittyhawk Su-35, I would pick GWH but I still think Kittyhawk is a good kit too. 😜

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29 minutes ago, foxmulder_ms said:

 

It is really personal. Isn't it?

 

It was a fun week to be and to see Tomcats in operation (real war operation) out in the Indian ocean on board JFK. But from this I am not an expert on the F-14 even though I like it very much.

 

But with the Fishbed I think I know most if not all inches of it and can show with hard photo evidence what I have corrected and why on those 60% of the kit. Sure it is a personal thing just as for similar Tomcat experts who knows well what they are talking about.

 

But the point was not about this. Where do you draw the line in accepting mistakes of a kit?

 

Best regards

Gabor  

P.s. Glad you like the GWH Su-35 kit. It was just as much fun researching and desinging it as experiencing a take off from JFK! 

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33 minutes ago, ya-gabor said:

Where do you draw the line in accepting mistakes of a kit?

Simple. It depends on each individual's knowledge on the subject.

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I define what is acceptable as far as accuracy by what else is available and how accurate any other kits are in comparison. If I have the choice of the Tamiya, soon the GWH (which is an unknown at this time) and the AMK kit, it will come down to which is the more accurate representation. After that I look at what features the kit offers. The AMK (and I would hope the GWH) offer dirty wings, something I like. I have a Tamiya F-14A which I bought the KASL wing set for. Certainly, AMK's wings would probably be much easier to deal with than the resin KASL ones. Same for the GWH I would think.

So, when it comes down to it, when the GWH D kit is released I will compare it to the AMK (if it is ever released) and Tamiya kits and decide which gives me the most accuracy with the features I want (even if they need to be available aftermarket) and make a decision. Needless to say, I will wait until the GWH kit is released. If it is near, as, or more accurate than the Tamiya kit, I will probably get it, even if the AMK kit hasn't been released yet. Based on AMK's history, I have little confidence at this point that their product will live up to their hype.

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