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AMK 1/48 F-14!!!

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11 hours ago, Dave Roof said:

How about you post all of those photos and prove the AMK kit is the only one that isn't correct?

 

 Thanks Dave.

 

 Scripture? Really?

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Just now, B.Sin said:

I'M SO CONFUSED!

 

 Word.

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Keep going, keep going... almost there. Three more pages. Come on guys, you can do it :evil-laughter:

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14 minutes ago, Mstor said:

Keep going, keep going... almost there. Three more pages. Come on guys, you can do it :evil-laughter:

 We're trying, we're trying hard!😄

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2 hours ago, B.Sin said:

Maybe Tamiya got it wrong?

 I don't think so:

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PS. Just checked my almost finished HB-F-14A, the top hip shape is also made from straight lines, not curves.

Edited by Tapchan

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49 minutes ago, Tapchan said:

 I don't think so:

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PS. Just checked my almost finished HB-F-14A, the top hip shape is also made from straight lines, not curves.

 

We had pics showing this way back in this thread. There is an area that starts at about the first panel aft of the inflatable bag thingy that is straight all the way back to where the horizontal stab pivot is. You can see it in this pic:

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This is where I think AMK has messed up. I won't know for sure until I have the kit in my hands. Yes, I pulled the trigger and preordered one from HobbyEasy. Maybe I can use the dirty wing on my Tamiya F-14A and sell the rest as someone has already suggested.

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So are the photos above fake? Or it's not a Tomcat depicted there? 

 

Mstor's picture catch the thing closed up i think 

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6 minutes ago, zerosystem said:

Look in the Daco book, the curves are there. 

 

Sorry, don't have that book.

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1 hour ago, Tapchan said:

 I don't think so:

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48552326852_0d48d30201_o.jpg

 

48552332752_9500da793a_o.jpg

 

PS. Just checked my almost finished HB-F-14A, the top hip shape is also made from straight lines, not curves.

Oh dear.

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Posted (edited)

Image1.thumb.jpg.be4986c1254a3aba31df4cc2f8227e91.jpgHips don't lie.

 

 

Edited by Solo

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Just now, Tapchan said:

So are the photos above fake? Or it's not a Tomcat depicted there? 

 

Mstor's picture catch the thing closed up i think 

 

I believe and earlier comment on this pic stated that the curve is still there, but not as pronounced. I don't know. I have the Tamiya F-14A kit (mostly built) a couple Hasegawa kits and will be getting the AMK. I don't have a real F-14 anywhere close that I can go look at. Photos are notoriously unreliable because view angle can exaggerate or diminish features. I've been going on comparisons of numerous photos and the Tamiya kit (which shows the same features I noted above). Is Tamiya wrong? My personal guess is no. Whether all of this means a darn is up to the individual. Many will not care if the AMK kits arse it "too big ". That's fine, different strokes for different folks. I'll make up my mind whether there is a problem when I have kit in hand. Then, if I think there is, I'll have to decide if it bothers me so much that I don't want to build the kit. I have more kits than I have life left, so I'm not going to worry about it too much.

Why all the fuss then? Cause it's fun to try to figure these things out. For me it's part of the  hobby.

Nuff said for now. 200, here we come (PLEASE Terry, don't end it yet).

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My goal is neither bashing AMK's kit nor change anybody's mind about buying it. This misshape was visible for me since I first saw the test parts, and I am no specialist of Tomcats. It just catched my eye "something's not right there". I believe that AMK team are smart guys (not really in PR but people tend to learn on mistakes :D) and even if they don't admit or respond here - they may be reading us. And if they are smart guys they won't waste great job with designing ver. D of Tomcat and stopping at that point but they'll try to squeeze the lemon while it's still juicy and make other versions too. I don't care much about A (I have HB) or D (I have Tamiya), but I'd really love to get F-14B. From what I've heared about AMK MiG-31 and other kits - they are really smart, avantgarde designed and well fitted. From what I see here I can admit I like the detail and all that. But really, if I build this kit (and I'd love to just for the sake of tasting some different design solutions) I couldn't really put it on my shelf because whenever I'd look at it my eyes would stick to that odd aft fuselage. So this small problem changes my stance while welcoming F-14A soon:

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That said I'd really like to see AMK rework this area for subsequent versions and let me buy and build it with no concern.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Mstor said:

 

I believe and earlier comment on this pic stated that the curve is still there, but not as pronounced. I don't know. I have the Tamiya F-14A kit (mostly built) a couple Hasegawa kits and will be getting the AMK. I don't have a real F-14 anywhere close that I can go look at. Photos are notoriously unreliable because view angle can exaggerate or diminish features. I've been going on comparisons of numerous photos and the Tamiya kit (which shows the same features I noted above). Is Tamiya wrong? My personal guess is no. Whether all of this means a darn is up to the individual. Many will not care if the AMK kits arse it "too big ". That's fine, different strokes for different folks. I'll make up my mind whether there is a problem when I have kit in hand. Then, if I think there is, I'll have to decide if it bothers me so much that I don't want to build the kit. I have more kits than I have life left, so I'm not going to worry about it too much.

Why all the fuss then? Cause it's fun to try to figure these things out. For me it's part of the  hobby.

Nuff said for now. 200, here we come (PLEASE Terry, don't end it yet).

 

Well said, we don't know what will be in the box in the end.  Although I've not seen evidence some of the issues have been fixed.  My main concern is the aerial refueling door seems to high in the front.  I was hopeful all the recent delays (delays after we saw the decals) were to fix these main issue.

 

My ultimate concern is whether I will even get an AMK F-14 from Sincere hobby or even a weapons set.

 

Early people were promised a weapons set, but the language lately was that all pre-orders are getting it.  Not sure anything any more.

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, galfa said:

In addition, the curve on the AMK kit's rear flank makes for underscaled exhausts.

 

That, and then there's also the thing with the misalignment on the IFR panel. TARPS pod is also wrong.

All of those who won't see the flaw on the AMK Tomcat rear flanks, why don't you go check Genesis' Tamiya Tomcat WIP thread? Pictures in it will clearly demonstrate the flat spot on the hips on the Tamiya kit.

Edited by Hubbie Marsten
It's not Genesis but Janissary

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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, phantomdriver said:

The IFR panel is no issue for me, .. glue , fill and rescribe… simples...

 

But shouldn't have to for such a touted fine kit.   Remember the GWH F-15 had a few such issues and later boxings of the kit fixed that.  Now it's the best F-15 in 1/48 IMHO.

 

Edit: Also, I can't scribe as fine as some of the modern kits relief detail.  So not so simple for me :-)

 

Edited by Jonathan S

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Just now, phantomdriver said:

The initial GWH F-15   problems were corrected shortly after issue, relevant sprues were sent to all who bought them

 

Sounds like fair approach to solve such problem.

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