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13 minutes ago, Jonathan_Lotton said:



So basically making the bottom panel line disproportionately larger than the top. 

Got it

 

...just a tiny bit where the two lines meet and maybe use some Mr surfacer to bring them back to scale.

Edited by DIO

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Once you have to bring Surfacer into play, the 15 seconds thing is well and truly busted!

To fix something that shouldnt even need fixing. To fix something that was even touted as a fix to potential problems introduced by the modeller during construction.

 

This misalignment might even be one of the more manageable instances. When bomb moulds are misaligned, the resulting plastic parts are close to useless. Again: intended to make the modeller's life easier by taking away the need to carefully align bomb halves. Fine in theory.....

Edited by ChernayaAkula

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40 minutes ago, DIO said:

 

If a modeler cannot "fix" this in under 15 seconds, then should go for a different type of model.

You mean like a model that doesn't have mold misalignment? 😁

 

I'm kidding, kidding. Just having fun with you. You kind of set it up for that joke though. 

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7 minutes ago, ChernayaAkula said:

Once you have to bring Surfacer into play, the 15 seconds thing is well and truly busted!


You are not serious, right?

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I am serious.

 

Your Surfacer dries and sands in 15 seconds?

 

Also, basic modelling skills and all that.... It's not that I can't fix it. I just  don't want to. I don't want to have to fix something that shouldn't need fixing in the first place.

 

EDIT: For the record: I don't have an axe to grind with AMK. I'm a happy customer of theirs. Got their 1/72 L-29 Delfin and half a dozen 1/72 IAI Kfirs. 

My only gripe with the Kfirs is that some of the bombs are useless - because of mould alignment issues!

Edited by ChernayaAkula
Damn typos. Phat phingers on the phone.

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1 hour ago, niart17 said:

I don't think anybody said this made the kit unbuildable. He simply posted an image that looks like a slight mold misalignment. And it does. Can it be fixed? Sure. It might not even be hard to fix. But it DOES look like a misalignment. It is what it is.

But, if I am going to trust someone on whether this is an issue or not, who do you think it should be? Someone who has posted a pic that is an extreme magnified close-up and whose motives are unknown? Or someone who has the kit in hand, is a reputable source and has NO axe to grind? Said person has stated that the misalignment cannot be seen with the naked eye. Case closed, just like the supposed misalignment with the canopy frames. To repeat what this same modeler said:    GOOD GRIEF INDEED!

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24 minutes ago, ChernayaAkula said:

I am serious.

 

Your Surfacer dries and sands in 15 seconds?

 

Also, basic modelling skills and all that.... It's not that I can't fix it. I just  don't want to. I don't want to have to fix something that shouldn't need fixing in the first place.

 

Mate, you make a big deal for something that happens to all modern models at some part or another.

 

Like saying that the cockpit is out of scale because the plastic is not as thin as the real metal side walls in the real thing (yep, I have heard that too).

 

But keep on. It is rather obvious what is happening with this kit here. And it is a joke.

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4 minutes ago, DIO said:

<...> But keep on. It is rather obvious what is happening with this kit here. And it is a joke.

 

Just.... no. I don't have a horse in this race. 1/48 isn't my scale. If anything,  want this Tomcat kit to sell by the hundreds. I hope AMK will be around for a long time. I hope they'll scale down that lovely Foxhound of theirs.

 

You didn't hear that thing about wall thickness from me.

 

Does this happen to all models at one point or another? The parts break-down and the mould design was supposed to make things easier. Well, it doesn't make it easier if it requires fixing. In case of the Tomcat here, it's probably not that hard to fix (a fix it shouldn't need). In case of some of the bombs in the 1/72 Kfir kit, they're beyond economical repair.

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3 hours ago, ChernayaAkula said:

Once you have to bring Surfacer into play, the 15 seconds thing is well and truly busted!

To fix something that shouldnt even need fixing. To fix something that was even touted as a fix to potential problems introduced by the modeller during construction.

 

This misalignment might even be one of the more manageable instances. When bomb moulds are misaligned, the resulting plastic parts are close to useless. Again: intended to make the modeller's life easier by taking away the need to carefully align bomb halves. Fine in theory.....

 

 

what are you talking about??? It is easier to glue two pieces and try to get rid of the seam line than this single piece gem???!!!? lol, You are lost mate. 🙂 you guys don't deserve these models. 😜

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Wow, some of the comments are truly incredible.

 

Paraphrasing here but;

 

If you don't model as good as me you shouldn't even have this kit.

 

you guys don't deserve these models.

 

It appears that unless you are true blue fanboy of this kit there are some members here who think you should not be allowed to purchase this kit. It's amazing how some members are attacking other members simply because they are expressing their opinion of a plastic model kit. Guess the concept of free speech is lost on some members here.

 

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This is kit bashing and the scale is unprecedented.

 

To my eyes raising issues that have to do with the technology used, that are not in particular with this kit, are just meant to create an overall negative climate. And this is so much annoying here, as it would be for any other kit/manufacturer.

 

Have a look (if not terribly bored doing so) at an example I have mentioned before over the kit plastic cockpit walls. Just rediculus.

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8 minutes ago, GW8345 said:

Guess the concept of free speech is lost on some members here.

 

I think it bears mentioning that this is a privately owned and run forum. There is no such thing as free speech under these conditions. If the owner doesn't like what you have to say, they have every right to kick you off the forum or at very least read you the riot act. We are here at the sufferance of the owner's good graces. Let us not forget that unless we want to find ourselves looking for a new venue to post on.

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1 minute ago, Mstor said:

 

I think it bears mentioning that this is a privately owned and run forum. There is no such thing as free speech under these conditions. If the owner doesn't like what you have to say, they have every right to kick you off the forum or at very least read you the riot act. We are here at the sufferance of the owner's good graces. Let us not forget that unless we want to find ourselves looking for a new venue to post on.

 

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3 minutes ago, DIO said:

Have a look (if not terribly bored doing so) at an example I have mentioned before over the kit plastic cockpit walls. Just rediculus.

 

When the misalignment issue on the canopy was brought up, it was investigated by Terry and others and determined to be a minor if not non-existent issue. That's just fine. Something comes up, it is discussed, people provide further evidence and the controversy was resolved with the minimum of fuss. We should be able to do the same with this possible fuselage alignment issue. After I posted my opinion of doing a fix, someone (sorry don't remember) stated that it was almost invisible when not magnified. That's great. Hopefully it just looked like a bigger issue in the close up (I will reserve final judgement till I receive my kit). There should be no need to be throwing insults and aggravation around here. Can't we start acting like adults, please?

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Cross post (Thanks to Mr. Fishbone):

 

 

As the tail fin of this F-14D is fully black so I decided to try the decals which produced by Furball Aero Design. I sprayed SF288 Mr. Finishing Surfacer 1500 Black onto both tail fins - I love the finishing so much, it's fully flat black! I begin the decal work after few layers of clear coat which will make the decals much more easier to slide. 

 

Decals are very good, thin and tough but please remember to put a little more water on the surface otherwise it'll very hard to slide it around. The decals are perfectly settled on the tail fins after 2-3 layers of Softener.

 

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AMK 1/48 F-14D updates:

Pre-shaded with SF288 & Gunze 40, this Felix is too big...my thumb is pain and tired, so that's all for the night.

 

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Awesome.

 

Have I ever told you how much I don't like preshading? 😜😜😜

Edited by DIO

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9 hours ago, Mstor said:

 

When the misalignment issue on the canopy was brought up, it was investigated by Terry and others and determined to be a minor if not non-existent issue. That's just fine. Something comes up, it is discussed, people provide further evidence and the controversy was resolved with the minimum of fuss. We should be able to do the same with this possible fuselage alignment issue. After I posted my opinion of doing a fix, someone (sorry don't remember) stated that it was almost invisible when not magnified. That's great. Hopefully it just looked like a bigger issue in the close up (I will reserve final judgement till I receive my kit). There should be no need to be throwing insults and aggravation around here. Can't we start acting like adults, please?

 

Sorry if it was my comments that offended you. Honestly had no intention for doing so...

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11 minutes ago, DIO said:

 

Sorry if it was my comments that offended you. Honestly had no intention for doing so...

 

No offense taken DIO. I wasn't even really talking about the post you were referring to (not even sure which one that was, I got s&%* for brains these days :naughty:). Just used it to bring up the canopy frame misalignment discussion. All is cool my friend :thumbsup:.

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10 hours ago, DIO said:

This is kit bashing and the scale is unprecedented.

 

But then, the Bashing Caucus is not that large - just repetitively vocal and overbearing. Good entertainment.

 

Gene K

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10 hours ago, Mstor said:

 

I think it bears mentioning that this is a privately owned and run forum. There is no such thing as free speech under these conditions. If the owner doesn't like what you have to say, they have every right to kick you off the forum or at very least read you the riot act. We are here at the sufferance of the owner's good graces. Let us not forget that unless we want to find ourselves looking for a new venue to post on.

Then only the owner and Mod's should determine what can/cannot be said on this site, not regular members.

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11 hours ago, GW8345 said:

 

If you don't model as good as me you shouldn't even have this kit.

To me it looks like a good summary. "If you aren't skilled enough then this model is too difficult for you."

 

In my opinion if kit is good then the plastic need no defender, because quality will defend itself.

Edited by Tapchan

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21 hours ago, terrysumner said:

Well I'm telling you now that this photo is GREATLY exaggerating this misalignment. I mean come on...the photo is a closeup and is at least 5 times the size of the part.  You can't see this "misalignment" unless you use some kind of magnifying device!  I had to use my reading glasses AND a 4X magnifying headset to see it. Good grief.....

 

Back to the kit. Above Terry is referring to the misalignment seen on the forward fuselage. Since he is the only one here (that I know of, correct me if I'm wrong) that has the kit, I will accept his evaluation until I have a kit in hand.

 

20 hours ago, GW8345 said:

They look like patches, probably on the real aircraft they used as an example.

 

The patches most like were the results of a "basket strikes", i.e. the refueling basket hitting the aircraft. It was not unknown for that panel to get hit every so often during air to air refueling,

 

Above is in regard to the small rectangular raised panels seen on the kit's forward fuselage. Thanks GW8345. That makes sense. a few swipes of a sanding stick should fix that one then (unless someone actually finds and builds the actual airframe with those patches).

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12 hours ago, DIO said:

This is kit bashing and the scale is unprecedented.

 

To my eyes raising issues that have to do with the technology used, that are not in particular with this kit, are just meant to create an overall negative climate. And this is so much annoying here, as it would be for any other kit/manufacturer.

 

Have a look (if not terribly bored doing so) at an example I have mentioned before over the kit plastic cockpit walls. Just rediculus.

I'm sorry. You are absolutely correct. I don't know why I would think that people should be allowed to discuss something they see that might be a problem with a new kit. It clearly is a perfect model that is above all critiques and criticisms. Honestly, you guys are right in saying we don't deserve such a kit. It should be enough that we are allowed to watch other people build it, in all it's glorious beauty. And anything that might be construed as a possibly flaw is CLEARLY beyond our measly modest skills. If we can't re-scribe panel lines perfectly then we probably shouldn't even be allowed to buy this model let alone be model builders at all. I'm on board with you guys now. Next time I see someone post a question or concern about this kit I think i may be the first in line to tell them to shut up and build it. It's a perfect model and any shape or molding issues is likely due to them not knowing what a drawing is, or not knowing anything about what panel lines look like in a photo. I hope you guys can forgive me for even wanting to hear what people might find wrong with the model before I spend money on it. 

 

Come on 300!!!

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