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1 hour ago, Mstor said:

 

Thanks for that clarification. I am a bit confused though as I cannot find any documentation on the "Deluxe" Turbo Encabulator. I know the original designs were explored in Britain in the 1940s and later formalized in a specification written up by GE in 1962 (HBK-8359).  But I thought the definitive work was not accomplished until Rockwell Automation took it over in 1977 for use in their transmissions as shown in the press release done by Bud Haggart. Later, the Retro Encabulator was developed and the Micro Encabulator was developed by PATH as a game changing global health technology. But nowhere can I find reference to the Deluxe version. Could this have been part of some classified development done by Grumman based on the technology exchanges that went on between the US and Britain during WWII?

The Deluxe Turbo Encabulator was installed under the highly classified F-14A+ Super-Duper Bad-Arse Airframe Change 6-14-1+.

 

You need a "Tippity Top-Sky High " security clearance to see the documentation for that Airframe Change. I would share it with you fi you know the unspoken/unwritten password and show me the never before seen hand shake.

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41 minutes ago, GW8345 said:

The Deluxe Turbo Encabulator was installed under the highly classified F-14A+ Super-Duper Bad-Arse Airframe Change 6-14-1+.

 

You need a "Tippity Top-Sky High " security clearance to see the documentation for that Airframe Change. I would share it with you fi you know the unspoken/unwritten password and show me the never before seen hand shake.

 

Of course I know the unspoken/unwritten password, and the never before seen Hand Shake, but the password may not be written or spoken, so I am silently mouthing it right now and I have just done the never before hand shake, behind my back, because it may never be seen... by anyone. So, obviously, I have met all requirements to see the airframe change documentation. You can send it to me using the absolutely secure Interocitor device, whose 2486 pieces are being set to you to assemble. Once assembled, you must speak to Exeter. If you can convince him not to kidnap you and take you to his planet, you can use the Interocitor to send me the file. Thanks in advance! :thumbsup:

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3 hours ago, Mstor said:

 

Thanks for that clarification. I am a bit confused though as I cannot find any documentation on the "Deluxe" Turbo Encabulator. I know the original designs were explored in Britain in the 1940s and later formalized in a specification written up by GE in 1962 (HBK-8359).  But I thought the definitive work was not accomplished until Rockwell Automation took it over in 1977 for use in their transmissions as shown in the press release done by Bud Haggart. Later, the Retro Encabulator was developed and the Micro Encabulator was developed by PATH as a game changing global health technology. But nowhere can I find reference to the Deluxe version. Could this have been part of some classified development done by Grumman based on the technology exchanges that went on between the US and Britain during WWII?


sorry I cannot say anything else without being subject to the Snowden Clause. 
 

Let’s just say AMK’s DTE is missing a few panel lines.....

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1 minute ago, habu2 said:


sorry I cannot say anything else without being subject to the Snowden Clause. 
 

Let’s just say AMK’s DTE is missing a few panel lines.....

 

Not to worry. GW8345 will be sending me info as soon as he can assemble his Interocitor. Not surprised, though, that the AMK DTE has accuracy problems. Lets hope Zactoman can shed some light on the issues there.

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On 11/5/2019 at 10:34 AM, masanissa said:

Indiegogo kits should go out soon . . . hopefully by the end of this week?

 

Received an email follow up from Vicky at AMK. Tracking numbers should be sent out as well.

 

From Vicky:

"Thank you for your confirm.

 

I will arrange all the kits send out as soon as possible. And also will give the tracking Number. Don’t worry.

 

 

Cheers" 

 

:pancake20bunny0xf:

 

Finally received an email from VICKY this morning with a tracking number. The kit is still in Canton international. Should take to 20-25 days to arrive.

 

All the comments from the crowd funders on AMK shitbook Official Fan page [mine(s) included] have of course been deleted by  AMK Official Fan Club's communist censorship.

 

I hope that the curtain will finally fall on this very bad play in a few days ...pity I will not have the promised T-shirt, I could have cleaned the scene with ... Just hope that my kit box won't be
 
signed by Sio !
 
Madcop.

 

 

 

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So according to your timeline, you should get your kit about two months after those of us who preordered? Shameful! 😔 You will probably receive it around the time the first retail kits arrive in stores here in the US.

 

Lesson I take from this, NO more pre-ordering or Go Fu** Me/IndieNOGo schemes for this boy.

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6 hours ago, madcop said:
I hope that the curtain will finally fall on this very bad play in a few days ...pity I will not have the promised T-shirt, I could have cleaned the scene with ... Just hope that my kit box won't be
 
signed by Sio !
 
Madcop.

 

I find it just amazing, and shameful, that they left you guys hanging for so long. Certainly a case of having their priorities f***ed up. I'm glad that you are finally getting your kits.

 

On a lighter note - for the one or two following closely the important discussions regarding the Deluxe Turbo Encabulator used in the F-14. GW8345  came through for me. Unfortunately, after assembling his Interocitor, he was kidnapped by Exeter and taken to his planet Metaluna. He managed find the info there and send it to me on my Interocitor. It appears that the only difference between the Deluxe and the standard Turbo Encabulator is that the six gyro-controlled antigravic marzelvanes that are attached to the ambifacient wane shafts to prevent internal precession are chrome plated. GW8345 is on his way back to earth after stealing Exeter's spaceship but unfortunately Exeter has remotely destroyed both our Interocitor devices.

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On 11/18/2019 at 4:21 PM, Mstor said:

 

 

 

Never knew the F-14 used the Deluxe Turbo Encabulator. You learn something new every day.  :thumbsup2:


Nothing but the best for our boys!

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10 minutes ago, Jonathan_Lotton said:



No, you'll probably get an empty box with a USB cable in it

 

 

Could be they were obtained via a 5 finger discount off the back of a truck. :whistle:

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1 hour ago, Jonathan_Lotton said:



No, you'll probably get an empty box with a USB cable in it

 

I also was thought about it.

 

1 hour ago, Mstor said:

 

Could be they were obtained via a 5 finger discount off the back of a truck. :whistle:

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1 hour ago, goondman said:

If you have the 18.99 to burn, try it; Ebay will refund it. I just wouldn't expect it. A few of us got burned during the summer buying a kittyhawk su-34 for 19.99

OK! Understood you.....😀

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Here is the latest info on when the kit is at Sprue Brothers...

 

"AMK 1:48 F-14D Tomcat - we are expecting an early December arrival.   We have hundreds on the way - no need to reserve one on pre-order in order to get one."

 

Scott

CNJC-IPMS

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58 minutes ago, F-16 said:

"AMK 1:48 F-14D Tomcat - we are expecting an early December arrival.   We have hundreds on the way - no need to reserve one on pre-order in order to get one."

 

:yahoo:Well, so good to have learnt! I will buy NONE! :tease:

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3 hours ago, goondman said:

If you have the 18.99 to burn, try it; Ebay will refund it. I just wouldn't expect it. A few of us got burned during the summer buying a kittyhawk su-34 for 19.99

Burned? I'd say so if someone would lost his money. 

On a positive note, got an email today from Bob of Victorymodels that they 're getting kits in the beginning of December give or take few days. Price of preordered kits will be 20% less than their site price plus small shipping fee. Weapons set will accompany.

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4 hours ago, Helmsman said:

Burned? I'd say so if someone would lost his money. 

On a positive note, got an email today from Bob of Victorymodels that they 're getting kits in the beginning of December give or take few days. Price of preordered kits will be 20% less than their site price plus small shipping fee. Weapons set will accompany.

 

 Got that message from Bob also. Patience rewarded. Yay!

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19 hours ago, madcop said:

 

Finally received an email from VICKY this morning with a tracking number. The kit is still in Canton international. Should take to 20-25 days to arrive.

 

All the comments from the crowd funders on AMK shitbook Official Fan page [mine(s) included] have of course been deleted by  AMK Official Fan Club's communist censorship.

 

I hope that the curtain will finally fall on this very bad play in a few days ...pity I will not have the promised T-shirt, I could have cleaned the scene with ... Just hope that my kit box won't be
 
signed by Sio !
 
Madcop.

 

 

 

Madcop

 

Happy to learn that you too received notice that the kit you paid for over two years ago is finally being sent.:thumbsup:

 

I had sent an angry email to Sio, via the Indiegogo webpage,  just a few days before he finally tasked Vicky with the logistics of sending out the kits.

 

Of course all the comments would be scrubbed from their Facebook page. Don't forget, over at another modeling forum located somewhere in the middle of the UK :whistle: , the whole AMK F-14D thread was locked down by one of the moderators :worship: who also deleted any mention of AMKs failures to provide kits. He locked the Airfix 2020 thread also, just to give himself cover. 

 

We do get an extra weapons set instead of a T-Shirt. My spend on Indiegogo didn't qualify me for a hat.:ripped: :rofl:

 

I hope my kit is signed in GOLD!!! by Sio. That will drive up it's worth!

 

Like you, I'll be happy once the kit has arrived so I can put everything behind me. Will I buy the AMK F-104G?:banana:

 

Other than that it has been fun learning about what a real F-14D looks like by studying the shapes of the AMK kit. :stooges:

 

(Almost at 270!!!)

 

Edited by masanissa

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Yay! My kit is on it´s way too.. at least I have a tracking number. Now, let's hope that the package doesn't get lost while handled by PostNord.

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On 11/18/2019 at 9:16 PM, Mstor said:

Lets hope Zactoman can shed some light on the issues there.

As I noted previously (here and pic), the encabulator was replaced with the oscillation overthruster on subsequent models.

 

On 11/11/2019 at 11:18 PM, Zactoman said:

The AMK just looks thick (and it's not just the forward fuselage).

 

More when time permits...

Comparing the fuselage centerlines.
Some dimensions (AMK red, Tamiya blue):

Side_dims_zpsuzhwfaij.jpg
Dimensions are approximate but pretty close. I used a pair of 6" calipers where I could and spring calipers where those wouldn't reach. I double checked (triple in some spots) and averaged the results. Close enough for government work.

 

To get the centerline profile I propped the models up on top of a print of the Grumman drawing, aligning the underside of the tip of the nose and the underside of the rear fuselage:

Profile_method_zpsiwq5noz7.jpg
I then used machinist square(s) and went around the edges (where I could) and made small marks on the drawing as well as taking a bunch of pictures.
The AMK kit took about 1/2 hour to do.
The Tamiya kit took less than a minute, no marks necessary and I didn't even bother taking pics. The only area it differed was the boat tail.

Side_profiles_zps1vdgrc4d.jpg

Side_profiles_Grum_zpsicebqakm.jpg

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I then used these points and drew the profile in Photoshop. I filled in the gaps where the machinist square wouldn't reach (between the rear nacelles) by eye as well as using what dimensions I had already taken. The fact that AMK chose to incorporate flat panels rather than curved made this easy.
The end result is approximate but pretty close.

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What the drawing doesn't show clearly is the flat surfaces on the AMK and the harsh transition of the boat tail section. The area between the staples and the boat tail section is almost flat on the AMK then sharply angles downward at the boat tail section, creating a convex peak.

Flat_peak_convex_zpsy0whkldz.jpg

 

Compare to the Tamiya kit which has gentle curves and a convex profile.

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With certain lighting the AMK peak is pronounced.

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The underside is similar, almost flat with an even harsher angled transition.

Bottom_flat_peak_zpsf4nywooq.jpg

 

I mentioned that the AMK looked thicker. Much of that through the rear centerline area is underneath so maybe not a huge bother. The flat panels and that transition do bother me though.

 

More coming, time permitting...

 

:cheers:

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Ah, pure scale model ***n. Wonderful stuff, Chriss!  You couldn't be more analytical. 

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Just remember, Tamiya had  technical information provided by Grumman, AMK did not.

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1 hour ago, B.Sin said:

Just remember, Tamiya had  technical information provided by Grumman, AMK did not.

 I guess it pretty fair to say now that it really shows.

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