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Enough Shion, if the guy says he hasn't had any issues yet leave it alone rather than compare it with hearsay. 

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17 minutes ago, zerosystem said:

Enough Shion, if the guy says he hasn't had any issues yet leave it alone rather than compare it with hearsay. 

 

Modelers engaged by AMK to promote the kit, struggle with it, to the point they had to choose the right pictures and weirdest angles to not show accuracy issues and assembling issues.

Normal modelers struggled with the kit and very few completed the build.

Pretty experienced and talented modelers struggle actually with the kit, despite one just having completed the HAS Tomcat, a kit notorious for his fitting issues.

 

And now, we're supposed to believe someone who is claiming the opposite, because he'd posted some pictures of a aera with few fit issues?

 

Let's follow his build and see at the same aeras others had problems, if there's a real problem with the kit or it's a lack of experience/competence of the others builders.

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You think that there is a conspiracy with the builders? 

 

You really want to bury the company don't you...

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2 hours ago, Hubbie Marsten said:

 

Is this issue carried out in the UH-1D kit as well?

 

No. Because the UH-1N and UH-1D have different rotors.

 

Jon

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7 minutes ago, zerosystem said:

You think that there is a conspiracy with the builders? 

 

You really want to bury the company don't you...

I agree, Shion I think you're pushing this a little too far now. I'm all for open discussions and letting pretty much any conversation about the KIT go. But you're starting to attack the integrity of a fellow modeler and member (yes, he's new but still, not cool) Please tone down the aggressive posting towards other modelers. That's not going to help anyone and frankly comes across as petty.

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14 minutes ago, zerosystem said:

You think that there is a conspiracy with the builders? 

 

You really want to bury the company don't you...

 

No, I've just want to see a build of the kit here.

It's pretty paradoxal, despite the hype about it, no build on this forum,

very few builds elsewhere.

 

What happened?

 

I perfectly understand some people who preordered the kit but got problems on the way decided to sell theirs.

But it's still paradoxal that a kit with this hype finally have this few WIP and completed builds.

 

 

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35 minutes ago, shion said:

Modelers engaged by AMK to promote the kit, struggle with it, to the point they had to choose the right pictures and weirdest angles to not show accuracy issues and assembling issues.

 

i.e., "don't show just how fat the rear hinds are?". Yesterday that I rejoiced my day off work, my wife out to work and only the dog to nag about, I was having some fun with the Heatblur F-14B on DCS. The simulation showed how well they've nailed the rear end on their rendition of the aircraft, I was wondering why AMK was such an epic fail.

Only trouble is Jester keeps on going AWOL as soon as he thinks his life's in danger; filled the Heatblur forums with complaints regarding this and some of the members there started defending the firm.

It suddenly reminded me of some of you here defending AMK, with the denial with regard to the kit issues, than I quit the simulation.

But it makes me wonder... :hmmm:Why are there people so biased about stuff that's awful wrong? What's in it for them?

I don't usually build my kits by the instruction sheet either, so don't push so hard on Salomon, as he's just new to this forum. Let him just get to know who the loony fellas are on this joint before he's asked to comply. 

 

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38 minutes ago, shion said:

 

 

very few builds elsewhere.

 

 

 

 

 

There are several in progress builds of the kit on many of the Facebook modeling pages. Just because YOU don't see them, doesn't mean they don't exist. Here's a thought, how about YOU build the kit and provide the group with actual firsthand knowledge of its problems?

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Well... wow, this is really getting weird here. Terry, just pull all the stops out and maybe we can get to 300 in a week or two. It'll get really hard to read, but I'm really interested to see if AMK will really give the first to make 300 pages a kit.

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4 hours ago, Hubbie Marsten said:

do you mind elaborating on how to fix the rotor issue in the Kitty Hawk UH-1N


Simple, you just replace them with the wings from the AMK F-14 kit. 

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9 hours ago, Hubbie Marsten said:

 

That's quite a smart move, Solo. Congratulations on a very good decision. It makes one less frustrated modeller who only got sold a shapeless, infamous and lame cloud-of-smoke hype - with beautiful dirty wings, that is.

Had I been in the AMK camp, I'd have cancelled the F-14D kit flop forever and had just released the dirty wings as a set for the Tamiya kit instead, in order to try and compensate for the awful losses. The dirty wings and the ordnance crap. But that's just me.

So what you're saying is that if one DOESN'T sell their AMK Tomcat, they aren't making a smart move or a good decision? And you wonder why the "Just Build It" crowd hurls insults at the "Rivet Counters". 

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4 hours ago, Hubbie Marsten said:

 

Now THIS I'm interested in; do you mind elaborating on how to fix the rotor issue in the Kitty Hawk UH-1N, Dave?

Is this issue carried out in the UH-1D kit as well?

 

I robbed the main rotor from the Italeri UH-1N, which is correct.

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2 hours ago, zerosystem said:

You really want to bury the company don't you...

Yes, he and a few others have made that clear for a while now. It's beyond ridiculous. But, even worse is that when anyone disagrees with their vitriol, they are slammed as being company shills or worse. Shameful and in my opinion, those that continue to berate others should be banned over their repeated personal attacks.

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1 hour ago, Dave Roof said:

Here's a thought, how about YOU build the kit and provide the group with actual firsthand knowledge of its problems?

Dave, to coin a phrase "those that can't do, criticize" (or in the military parlance, teach).

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1 hour ago, Mstor said:

Well... wow, this is really getting weird here. Terry, just pull all the stops out and maybe we can get to 300 in a week or two. It'll get really hard to read, but I'm really interested to see if AMK will really give the first to make 300 pages a kit.

 

Of course they will. Any press is good Press 😄 go AMK!!! Please release a Mig 1.44 or Su-47 in 1/48. PLEASE!!!@!@@!!!! I will buy 10 of them. each. 

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4 hours ago, shion said:

 

If you don't have assembling problems yet, why didn't you follow the instruction manual build sequence?

 

And if you look the build photos I posted 2 pages ago, the aera you are showing is one with fewer issues, the builder only used surfacer 1000 to fill the lateral gaps and some polyputty for the beaver tail.

 

Show us how you deal with the whole intakes-bottom fuselage assembly or the joint front fuselage-main body.

 

 

YEahhhhh. how dare you use your brain! 😄

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This thread now needs an 18+ warning with all these "show me yours" propositions LOL!
Related image
 

 

Meh, what do I know...I still enjoy building Lindberg and Matchbox kits :woot.gif:!

 

Happy modeling all!

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40 minutes ago, Don said:
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Meh, what do I know...I still enjoy building Lindberg and Matchbox kits :woot.gif:!

 

Happy modeling all!

:thumbsup:

I have more fun building them, Monogram and Airfix kits!

 

-Gregg

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29 minutes ago, GreyGhost said:

:thumbsup:

I have more fun building them, Monogram and Airfix kits!

 

-Gregg

Awesome! Glad I'm not alone.

Happy modeling!

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From Wikipedia:

 

“In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community(such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses and normalizing tangential discussion, whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain.”

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19 hours ago, foxmulder_ms said:

 

Of course they will. Any press is good Press 😄 go AMK!!! Please release a Mig 1.44 or Su-47 in 1/48. PLEASE!!!@!@@!!!! I will buy 10 of them. each. 

I think it'll be a better idea if we just ask other manufacturers like GWH etc. to create those kits for us. AMK has definitely lost its appeal as well as integrity after this F-14 fiasco.

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1 hour ago, gb_madcat_sl said:

From Wikipedia:

 

“In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community(such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses and normalizing tangential discussion, whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain.”

 

 

Maybe you should look up "neffing"....

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1 hour ago, flybywire said:

I think it'll be a better idea if we just ask other manufacturers like GWH etc. to create those kits for us. AMK has definitely lost its appeal as well as integrity after this F-14 fiasco.

Actually it's a good idea for AMK to stick to less famous and recognizable shapes.

 

But now as I imagined it I feel that even if subject of this topic was MiG 1.44 it would be the same. Less viewers of course, less crowd but still some MiG fan would find shape innacuracies in "most accurate 1/48 MiG 1.44 ever" (which would be true due to competition of course).

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8 hours ago, shion said:

 

No, I've just want to see a build of the kit here.

It's pretty paradoxal, despite the hype about it, no build on this forum,

very few builds elsewhere.

 

What happened?

 

I perfectly understand some people who preordered the kit but got problems on the way decided to sell theirs.

But it's still paradoxal that a kit with this hype finally have this few WIP and completed builds.

 

 

And your very behaviour is maybe  one of the reasons nobody made a WIP here yet? 

With your toxic behaviour the WIP build here will be contaminated with hate and BS comment. You already went toxic about fellow modellers from outside, and new with that.

You will continue your AMK bashing whatever the builder shows you, you'll always find an excuse to bring back your hate in the top of the discussion 

 

I am building one and I wanted to make a WIP build here. But I can already see how this is going to end because of you and your AMK bashers likes

Since I actually enjoy building models, with or without challenges (and I don't always follow instructions, even on Tamiya kit) but I despise trolls and manufacturer bashing, I don't see the point to document a build here and have to deal with you haters.

 

So as far as I am concerned your behaviour in this topic is a disservice to the ARC community.

You make normal modellers turn someplace else for their WIP and your make ARC look like a nasty and toxic place to visit. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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