B.Sin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Martin @ AMK Models said: Oh and I don't need to prove anything. I am happy with what I have written and sleep well at night. I tell the truth and having served as a police detective for 20 years my personal integrity is worth to me than any model company or model forum! Those that have actually met me at Telford or at model meetings here in the UK or Malaysia will attest to that I am sure. Word! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tapchan said: Not even asking you to prove anything. Can you tell me what differs pre-production product from final product in case of AMK F-14? As far as I know EARLY-production (not pre-) that were sent to first reviewers did not contain instruction book, which is clearly included in this review. Also, those early kits were signed on 28-08, month before the one in mentioned review. End of september was when many of regular customers have their boxes signed. This guy just received a free kit with all parts included and fully ready to construction. There are always different level of samples. Pre production - alpha - fitting and honing of details and issues Pre production - beta - fitting and help with construction maybe Blah blah blah Pre production samples - sometimes fresh from x type mold usually no instructions or decals or box and so it goes on until the company is confident with the 'final product' - even then, with reported issues there are changes to be made Then decal selection and choice of producer as in this case.. The instructions are drawn and translated or corrected in various versions. This takes an age anyway. Final plastic is never really signed off until reviews from first production samples are sent, pre productions samples and the final samples which include everything but still need some work. This is why no decent company ever gives a sample out and demands a good review. I always said, please give me a say in the reply so we had a comment on record rather than reply on the review of something that would never see the real light of day. A kit goes though tens or even hundreds of iterations, not one. Depending on when the sample is produced, this effects the final view of course. in the main, AMK was always happy to deliver samples at all stages. Maybe this was a mistake BUT in their defence, they were always wanting honest reviews in improving the product not asking for defamation as has been the obvious case. The modeller has now lost out clear and simple I am afraid. Now it is firmly in hands of the east. Edited February 21, 2020 by Martin @ AMK Models spelling correction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Lets not forget AMK was one of the first, if not the first, to encourage aftermarket companies like Furball Decals to assist with production kits. This was the ethos of AMK under my tenure. Ammo and AK Interactive followed us with Takom, Trumpeter and others. Fact. That's gone now so most decals will be designed and produced in China I can only assume. Who lost out? We had arrangement with others who now will likely not get the chance to finish. Jake Melampy at Reid Air Brian at Fightertown Dave Roof at Leathernecks and many more projects to come in the future. Furball Decals was only one of many I was engaging with to improve the economy abilities and exposure of western cottage industries. Now this has ended with thanks to those who worked against it, well done to you. Just goes to show that you never know what's going on in the background to try and make lives easier. Maybe you will think twice before posting rubbish and 'opinions' online. Edited February 22, 2020 by Martin @ AMK Models Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, habu2 said: I always thought being in an organization like Secret Service was a lot like Fight Club. And we all know the First (and Second) Rule about Fight Club. How do I know this? Sorry I can’t talk about that ... Totally agree but when you are shown ID of someone in a specific uniform it adds to the gravitas. I can absolutely tell you that Terry is Chinese 'Secret Service'. I no longer care because he has no hold over me. As I say, I no longer speak for or are associated with AMK in any way so my views and opinions are mine alone and not of the company or of my friend SeiHoi Sio. My posts from January and byond should not be associated with AMK in any way, shape or form. As soon as I can have my name changed I will do just that. BUT I prefer you know the truth as opposed to rumours and lies. As I have already said, AMK and I parted company in good terms and I absolutely support them in every way as a company that has always tried to be honest and deliver for modellers. I have no bad feeling towards anyone in AMK and left of my own accord. If you don't like it or don't believe it, check the result sof my own business with now 98% UK railways, 70% Nordic airports and customers across the USA, Australia and EU. I simply don't have time for model planes. My interest has moved to 1/35 dioramas because of my eyes...............simple. Edit: This said, if I suddenly disappear then you know who to blame haha. Edited February 22, 2020 by Martin @ AMK Models Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Jake Dave Geoff Brian You guys here? Is this true or not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, Martin @ AMK Models said: Lets not forget AMK was one of the first, if not the first, to encourage aftermarket companies like Furball Decals to assist with production kits. KittyHawk began working with and using decals from Werner's Wings before you guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmanrick Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Martin, hello again my friend! I am happy to hear that your businesses are doing well! I am also glad that you attempted to set the record straight, but sadly there are a few here that will only attack you for that effort. If you are attacked for those comments, I think you already know why as you so aptly put it thusly; "I can only assume that there are agendas at play here.." Do you know anything more about the Annetra Mi-17? Is it still on the way? Thanks my friend and great to see you healthy and in good spirits despite your numerous detractors. Rick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Martin @ AMK Models said: Maybe you will think twice before posting rubbish and 'opinions' online. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIO Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Tapchan said: Review, as said before, is completely missing all flaws that were mentioned and proven here before. Maybe a person reviewing it does not know arc and subject of the kit any good? Maybe, but still what I said is that's just a rubbish as a review then. I am just thinking that issues may not be mentioned because some of those "proven flaws" are just not there? You can trust or not, your choose. And most of us trust our own eyes. I feel sorry for those that do not have the model, read whatever, and at the end have no idea if they should buy this kit or not lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Roof Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Martin @ AMK Models said: Jake Dave Geoff Brian You guys here? Is this true or not? Yes, it is. However, Kinetic was actually one of the first to work with aftermarket decal companies. Fightertown and CrossDelta to be exact. I also did decal art for Zoukei-Mura several years ago. 1 hour ago, Whiskey said: KittyHawk began working with and using decals from Werner's Wings before you guys. I don't believe that is 100% accurate. I might be mistaken, but I think Floyd just helped with research, but I don't think WW actually provided art or the decals themselves. As a caveat, I could be completely wrong on this one, this is just what I've gathered from what I've read/seen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) Daco has been designing decals for Revell Germany since 1990 or so http://www.dacoproducts.com/HS.html . Edited February 22, 2020 by habu2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Whiskey said: KittyHawk began working with and using decals from Werner's Wings before you guys. Nope, not true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, Dave Roof said: Yes, it is. However, Kinetic was actually one of the first to work with aftermarket decal companies. Fightertown and CrossDelta to be exact. I also did decal art for Zoukei-Mura several years ago. I don't believe that is 100% accurate. I might be mistaken, but I think Floyd just helped with research, but I don't think WW actually provided art or the decals themselves. As a caveat, I could be completely wrong on this one, this is just what I've gathered from what I've read/seen. Correct Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) NOT MY POST Edited March 20, 2020 by Martin @ AMK Models NOT MY POST Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) NOT MY POST Edited March 20, 2020 by Martin @ AMK Models NOT MY POST Quote Link to post Share on other sites
masanissa Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Martin @ AMK Models said: Lets not forget AMK was one of the first, if not the first, to encourage aftermarket companies like Furball Decals to assist with production kits. This was the ethos of AMK under my tenure. Hasegawa November 1995. Hasegawa has numerous production kits that included AeroMaster Decals or decals printed and designed by Cartograph. They also teamed up with resin aftermarket companies too. AMK may be the first to only include aftermarket decals from day one release. But the idea of adding premium details and or decals is not new. Most modelers welcome aftermarket decals inside the box, since it saves money in the long run. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) NOT MY POST Edited March 20, 2020 by Martin @ AMK Models NOT MY POST Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Roof Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Martin @ AMK Models said: Yawn, thanks for posting. Aero... who? Gaston Bernal and Aeromaster was the driving force behind many of us currently operating aftermarket decal lines. He supported us, gave us feedback and was a dear friend to all of us. Please do not disrespect his memory with these types of comments. I do have a lot of respect for you, but this is crossing a line with me personally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
masanissa Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, Martin @ AMK Models said: Yawn, thanks for posting. Aero... who? You're rude and dismissive. Now I wonder, as a customer, whose kits should I buy? The company that has a sense of history about the hobby and is respectful or . . . AeroMaster had a long history that contributed to the 1/48 scale aircraft decal market. Many of their old sheets that are rare and desirable sell for more than an AMK F-14D. I should know, since I have sold AeroMaster decal sheets on eBay and earned over $100 on a few. Now I'm done with you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 36 minutes ago, Martin @ AMK Models said: Yawn, thanks for posting. Aero... who? ...and now we know why your relationship with a model manufacturer ended. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delide Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) I think it's great for AMK that they parted ways, good term or not why should I care? Man, I read so much drivel in this guy's recent posts that I couldn't take my time to finish reading, I thought he's the one who has little time? Just one thing though, why the heck should anyone be careful about what they say about Terry Tan(単承勇)??? An ex or even current Chinese Secret Service guy, I can't care less, for all I know from Aviation Art insider, Terry Tan is a cheat and a thief, he stole AA's Su-33 design and sold it to others, he belongs in jail. Edited February 22, 2020 by delide Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delide Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) I forgot to mention that company Hazmat, which we're warned to be "more than careful" when speak about too 🙄 if it's a registered company at all... anyway, I'm curious if Hazmat has released any product that I won't know. I know none so far, I wonder why, could it be that they did so secretly too, or else... Funny that the name is Hazmat, the AA insider did try to warn us here by revealing what the Terry guy did. so I would have to say yes, if anyone get in business with this guy, his company or his associates, please really be more than careful before you put in your money and trust. Edited February 22, 2020 by delide Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 17 hours ago, Martin @ AMK Models said: Yawn, thanks for posting. Aero... who? Low blow, class less, and not cool. Wow... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmanrick Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Gotta say, the comments being posted by "Martin@AMK Models" seem to be completely out of character for the person I thought I knew? I am wondering if someone else is using that account? Hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but something smells fishy to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Seems people are grasping at straws to keep this thread going. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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