Laurent Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 12 hours ago, B.Sin said: How do you already know the Tamiya come Tomcat is ahead? Have you seen the tooling or test shots? Producing an injected plastic kit is an industrial project. It's a question of factual engineering capabilities, not of faith. Doing fine sharp and consistent surface detailing requires very high quality, very precise, very expensive CNC and EDM machines. Compare the surface details of the top wing flaps. Tamiya: sharp zigzagging line http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/index.php?main_page=popup_image_additional&pID=15031&pic=11&products_image_large_additional=images%2Fmodelkits%2FTA61114_3.jpg AMK: row of dots https://scontent.flim5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29432727_950602318437929_9193027158661914292_n.jpg?_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeE4SFODgTiNABx50bN0NGKAfry8Lar_z35pwziALrqsROJ7FxJuNZ8ZR730qDDGOrqn5GWep_csd3Iv0l5YMW3nAqTPM6OIygLhabmlZg5uSg&oh=1723fe9e95a11c07ab5199c010f01303&oe=5B48ACC9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galileo1 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 15 hours ago, B.Sin said: How do you already know the Tamiya come Tomcat is ahead? Have you seen the tooling or test shots? Well...I have both releases of the AMK MiG-31 and neither beats Tamiya on surface detail, sorry. Again, I'm NOT saying that AMK may not produce a very nice Tomcat. It just won't be a Tamiya "quality" Tomcat. Features aside, AMK simply won't produce what Tamiya has produced. Perhaps one day, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galileo1 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Laurent said: Producing an injected plastic kit is an industrial project. It's a question of factual engineering capabilities, not of faith. Doing fine sharp and consistent surface detailing requires very high quality, very precise, very expensive CNC and EDM machines. Compare the surface details of the top wing flaps. Tamiya: sharp zigzagging line http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/index.php?main_page=popup_image_additional&pID=15031&pic=11&products_image_large_additional=images%2Fmodelkits%2FTA61114_3.jpg AMK: row of dots https://scontent.flim5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29432727_950602318437929_9193027158661914292_n.jpg?_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeE4SFODgTiNABx50bN0NGKAfry8Lar_z35pwziALrqsROJ7FxJuNZ8ZR730qDDGOrqn5GWep_csd3Iv0l5YMW3nAqTPM6OIygLhabmlZg5uSg&oh=1723fe9e95a11c07ab5199c010f01303&oe=5B48ACC9 Exactly!! These two examples clearly demonstrate why, features aside, the Tamiya Tomcat will remain the BEST Tomcat out there in terms of quality. It's simple, really...Given the choice of F-14Ds between AMK and Tamiya people WILL go with Tamiya most of the time...regardless of the features AMK may come up with. My opinion only, of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Well, by the time AMK finally get their Tomcat to market the Tamiya kit will be considered old and almost antique.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sio Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Haha, Guys, No need to compare! I respectfully expressed many times in public, big T's mold quality and design is the best in the world. And, we had been learning from their plastic in the past over 10 years. We just wish you like AMK kits also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfighter 124 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 So when is the release date? Rumor is April 10th, 2018. That is 19 days away from an AMK F-14D to materialized, right... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shion Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Laurent said: Producing an injected plastic kit is an industrial project. It's a question of factual engineering capabilities, not of faith. Doing fine sharp and consistent surface detailing requires very high quality, very precise, very expensive CNC and EDM machines. Compare the surface details of the top wing flaps. Tamiya: sharp zigzagging line http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/index.php?main_page=popup_image_additional&pID=15031&pic=11&products_image_large_additional=images%2Fmodelkits%2FTA61114_3.jpg AMK: row of dots https://scontent.flim5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29432727_950602318437929_9193027158661914292_n.jpg?_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeE4SFODgTiNABx50bN0NGKAfry8Lar_z35pwziALrqsROJ7FxJuNZ8ZR730qDDGOrqn5GWep_csd3Iv0l5YMW3nAqTPM6OIygLhabmlZg5uSg&oh=1723fe9e95a11c07ab5199c010f01303&oe=5B48ACC9 Things that strike me the most, is the fact that on the third wing, in background, totally out of focus, panel lines are so deep and wide, that you can see them. Edited March 23, 2018 by shion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Space Tiger Hobbes Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Looks great to me! Can't wait! Tomcat - down and dirty - wings spread -ready to leap off the deck and pounce on the bad guys. Tamiya- great museum display. AMK - great live action diorama bird. Love'em all. Buy'em all. Release the decal stash! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Laurent said: Producing an injected plastic kit is an industrial project. It's a question of factual engineering capabilities, not of faith. Doing fine sharp and consistent surface detailing requires very high quality, very precise, very expensive CNC and EDM machines. Compare the surface details of the top wing flaps. Tamiya: sharp zigzagging line http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/index.php?main_page=popup_image_additional&pID=15031&pic=11&products_image_large_additional=images%2Fmodelkits%2FTA61114_3.jpg AMK: row of dots https://scontent.flim5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29432727_950602318437929_9193027158661914292_n.jpg?_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeE4SFODgTiNABx50bN0NGKAfry8Lar_z35pwziALrqsROJ7FxJuNZ8ZR730qDDGOrqn5GWep_csd3Iv0l5YMW3nAqTPM6OIygLhabmlZg5uSg&oh=1723fe9e95a11c07ab5199c010f01303&oe=5B48ACC9 Yes, I know that. I didn't think it could grow in the backyard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goondman Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Sio said: Haha, Guys, No need to compare! I respectfully expressed many times in public, big T's mold quality and design is the best in the world. And, we had been learning from their plastic in the past over 10 years. We just wish you like AMK kits also. Like AMK kits? Yes! Like AMK's "soon, on its way, not long now, another pre order, bla, bla, bla, bla"? Abso-friggen-lutely NO!!!!!! Just saying Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Laurent said: Producing an injected plastic kit is an industrial project. It's a question of factual engineering capabilities, not of faith. Doing fine sharp and consistent surface detailing requires very high quality, very precise, very expensive CNC and EDM machines. Compare the surface details of the top wing flaps. Tamiya: sharp zigzagging line http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/index.php?main_page=popup_image_additional&pID=15031&pic=11&products_image_large_additional=images%2Fmodelkits%2FTA61114_3.jpg AMK: row of dots https://scontent.flim5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29432727_950602318437929_9193027158661914292_n.jpg?_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeE4SFODgTiNABx50bN0NGKAfry8Lar_z35pwziALrqsROJ7FxJuNZ8ZR730qDDGOrqn5GWep_csd3Iv0l5YMW3nAqTPM6OIygLhabmlZg5uSg&oh=1723fe9e95a11c07ab5199c010f01303&oe=5B48ACC9 Yes, I know that. I didn't think it grew in the backyard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Sio said: Haha, Guys, No need to compare! I respectfully expressed many times in public, big T's mold quality and design is the best in the world. And, we had been learning from their plastic in the past over 10 years. We just wish you like AMK kits also. Sio, AMK can't do the same? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sio Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, B.Sin said: Sio, AMK can't do the same? No. No. Not the same. AMK picture is just showing the first trial of plastics. It will be the same AMK quality, or a bit better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sio Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, goondman said: Like AMK kits? Yes! Like AMK's "soon, on its way, not long now, another pre order, bla, bla, bla, bla"? Abso-friggen-lutely NO!!!!!! Just saying Small company issue. Bear with us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Sio said: No. No. Not the same. AMK picture is just showing the first trial of plastics. It will be the same AMK quality, or a bit better. Thank you Sio. Please make it as good as Tamiya quality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sio Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, B.Sin said: Thank you Sio. Please make it as good as Tamiya quality. We are just a little baby. Better don't compare. We will try our best to make it as good as possible anyhow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 29 minutes ago, Sio said: We are just a little baby. Better don't compare. We will try our best to make it as good as possible anyhow. I know you can do it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goondman Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 56 minutes ago, Sio said: Small company issue. Bear with us. Completely understand. And you have no obligation to give any info, but come on.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan_Lotton Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 "I JUST WANT MY KITS!!! OMG WORST SITUATION EVER!" -Someone who probably has 200+ kits "in the stash" that they could build in the meantime yet are now bored of it I get it, I'm eager for the kits too, I'm on the hook for two myself..but lets just...lean the pitchforks against the barn for a while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ytsejam87 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, Jonathan_Lotton said: "I JUST WANT MY KITS!!! OMG WORST SITUATION EVER!" -Someone who probably has 200+ kits "in the stash" that they could build in the meantime yet are now bored of it I get it, I'm eager for the kits too, I'm on the hook for two myself..but lets just...lean the pitchforks against the barn for a while. I agree. We all want a healthy modeling industry, and having new companies releasing quality product is a good thing. I would say (given the 76 pages of posts and counting)we are all "in it to win it", and are anxiously awaiting to see how far AMK knocks the ball out of the park. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 7 hours ago, galileo1 said: Exactly!! These two examples clearly demonstrate why, features aside, the Tamiya Tomcat will remain the BEST Tomcat out there in terms of quality. It's simple, really...Given the choice of F-14Ds between AMK and Tamiya people WILL go with Tamiya most of the time...regardless of the features AMK may come up with. My opinion only, of course. got my hip waders on glt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IAGeezer Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Space Tiger Hobbes said: Looks great to me! Can't wait! Tomcat - down and dirty - wings spread -ready to leap off the deck and pounce on the bad guys. Tamiya- great museum display. AMK - great live action diorama bird. Love'em all. Buy'em all. Release the decal stash! Well said. Regarding the (horrible) panel lines, hasn't that tune been played on several other threads and releases over the past few years? All based on photographs, with much carping and hand-wringing until the kit is actually released.... Looking at my AMK Foxhound, those panel lines made a fine allowance for paint. Will they be as fine as the Tamiya kit? Don't know until it's in my sweaty little claws! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gb_madcat_sl Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 More test sprues. This time the fuselage. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-10 LOADER Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 My question is, why is there a separate piece for the "turtle back" ? It looks good however. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 So the pictures above and wing pictures on the previous page are the current state of where AMK is with the kit and not older pictures? If so it seems we're still a ways away from release then I'd imagine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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