82Whitey51 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Very cool looking MPR aircraft. I'd love one of these in '72 scale to go with my P-3 and Nimrod. Great color on it, I recall seeing the JSDF C-130s in CENTCOM in the same blue color. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Tapsell Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 There were two P-1s at RIAT - one in the static park and one doing the display. The static bird was parked up next to a P-8. I was surpised at how small the P-1 is (smaller than the P-8 and looked slightly smaller than the P-3 as well) Regards, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Very cool! Those gigantic cockpit windows are almost out of proportion to the airplane. Great visibility! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Air-Craft Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The P-1 is just smaller than the P-8, I think that the large cockpit windows of the P-1 play tricks & make it look far smaller than it is; Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 You can definitely see some Lockheed DNA in the P-1... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 You can definitely see some Lockheed DNA in the P-1... Hey, it's not THAT overpriced or late! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horrido Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 How do the fuselage lengths, diameters, and volumes compare between the P-8 and P-1? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
82Whitey51 Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 There were two P-1s at RIAT - one in the static park and one doing the display. The static bird was parked up next to a P-8. I was surpised at how small the P-1 is (smaller than the P-8 and looked slightly smaller than the P-3 as well) Regards, John Great photos! Thank you for posting them up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
82Whitey51 Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 You can definitely see some Lockheed DNA in the P-1... Yes, definitely. The interior layout and crew positions are nearly identical in placement, entry door, overwing escape hatches etc. They put the APU in the aft end, good call there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
82Whitey51 Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) The P-1 is just smaller than the P-8, I think that the large cockpit windows of the P-1 play tricks & make it look far smaller than it is; For sure, the flight station windows on the P-8 are wholly inappropriate for maritime patrol. You can't see jack in the turn down low. Those overhead windows on the P-3 and P-1 are used by the pilot to look out of while banking low over the water, you can pick up the horizon right through those...they don't exist on the P-8. Edited July 22, 2015 by 82Whitey51 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 The P-1 is just smaller than the P-8, I think that the large cockpit windows of the P-1 play tricks & make it look far smaller than it is; those two just don't look to be at the same scale... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horrido Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 You can definitely see some Lockheed DNA in the P-1... Yes, definitely. The interior layout and crew positions are nearly identical in placement, entry door, overwing escape hatches etc. They put the APU in the aft end, good call there. You don't think there's enough evidence to suspect a captive breeding between an S-3 and an Orion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) The P-8 had an armed guard throughout the show - British coppers, up to five of them at one time, fully tooled up. The P-1 just looked so forlorn .....with those big sad 'eyes'...... It was noticeably quite during its display - which was quite tame, but interesting. Ken Edited July 22, 2015 by Flankerman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 A few of mine from the flying display..... FLIR turret extended and weapons bay open..... I also took a few 'walkround' photos - for when the kit is released...... :whistle:/>/>/> :pray:/>/>/> Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DutyCat Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 For sure, the flight station windows on the P-8 are wholly inappropriate for maritime patrol. You can't see jack in the turn down low. Those overhead windows on the P-3 and P-1 are used by the pilot to look out of while banking low over the water, you can pick up the horizon right through those...they don't exist on the P-8. It just demonstrates what a compromise airframe the P-8 is. Clearly, the Japanese saw that too, so they went with a clean sheet design. Maybe the P-1 should have been a Japanese-American joint development product and we could have bought P-1s. Assuming comparable avionics, the robust nature of the P-1 airframe and dedicated design seem superior. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alternative 4 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I was at RIAT too and what surpised me about the P-1 was how quiet it was. When taxing I could barely hear it. Very strange for a 4 engine jet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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