Laurent Posted August 8, 2015 Author Share Posted August 8, 2015 (edited) Trumpeter's mad riveter at work again?? Macro photos and having the sprues in your hands are different things. In a macro photo, the lens is stuck 2-5cm over the kit part. A photo is static, the way you look at the part is imposed by the photo. When you have the sprues in hands, the distance between the eyes and the sprue is between 10cm and 1m. It changes, it's a dynamic process. In other words you may perceive the kit differently if you have the kit in hand than by looking at close-up photos. I'm not sure that Trumpeter used cross-sections data to design the kit. Perhaps they've just used 6-view drawings. The LERX/front fuselage area may be "over blended". Still the existing 1/72 MiG-29 kits are far from being free of shape issues... Edited August 8, 2015 by Laurent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 (edited) Using Ken Duffey's method to check profiles : The cockpit sides on a MiG-29 are almost vertical.... and there is a tight radiused 'crease' where the vertical wall meets the LERX - with the front of the LERX/chine being quite sharp...like so.... GWH have it spot-on. Over to you......... Ken PS - And those intake anti-FOD louvres :bandhead2:/> - they are only open when the engine is running on the ground and the main intakes are closed off. Edited August 8, 2015 by Flankerman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beingthehero Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Hero, what hobby search's link? I've only found them on Hobby Linc so far http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10339910 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tbolt Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 The cockpit sides on a MiG-29 are almost vertical.... and there is a tight radiused 'crease' where the vertical wall meets the LERX - with the front of the LERX/chine being quite sharp...like so.... GWH have it spot-on. Over to you......... Ken PS - And those intake anti-FOD louvres :bandhead2:/>/> - they are only open when the engine is running on the ground and the main intakes are closed off. You would have though at least with the GWH being the best MiG-29 kit out there, that Trumpeter might have looked over the kit which would have given them at least a heads up about the louvres. But Trumpeter don't really surprise me anymore with their lack of research, when they get simple things wrong that 10 minutes of research could have solved. I'm not sure about this one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Sidharta Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Thanks a lot, Alex! Would it be too much to ask of you to show us a side view of the front fuselage to see if/ how the windscreen 'bites' into the fuselage (as opposed to the horizontal joining surface of all other 72nd scale kits so far...)? As you wish..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Trumpeter didn't get it right on their 1/32th scale MiG-29 M/k kit's. What's up With these guy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 While it is just one of those details that never seems to be noticed and actually done in the kits, i dont find it much of a big deal imho. More pressing issue seems to be a bit shallow angle on the windshield, but need to compare to some pics. There is something not quite right with the intakes or the engine fairings on top, but again, need to compare. Cockpit detail looks bad, some surface details seems to be very weak (gun nozzle and mesh screens behind LERX intakes) but panellines and rivets look sharp and about right depth wise. Overall i would say it looks pretty decent, but it just could have been better with slightly more effort. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 More pressing issue seems to be a bit shallow angle on the windshield, but need to compare to some pics. Situation seems much better that in the Italeri kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I'm have pictures of future Zvezda's MiG-29 (i can't publish it, but in 4-6 weeks i hope Zvezda will publish full renders) - in this model all detail will be more comprehensive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 I'm have pictures of future Zvezda's MiG-29 (i can't publish it, but in 4-6 weeks i hope Zvezda will publish full renders) - in this model all detail will be more comprehensive. Yes but it won't be a 9.12 right ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 No, 9-13S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I'm have pictures of future Zvezda's MiG-29 (i can't publish it, but in 4-6 weeks i hope Zvezda will publish full renders) - in this model all detail will be more comprehensive. I assume CAD pictures, they havent actually tooled it yet, have they? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Of course CAD screen savers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nicholassagan Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Is it still only in RENDER phase?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Russians usual long harness, but then quickly go. © W. Churchill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nicholassagan Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Well said. :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niki4703 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 As you wish.... Perfect, Alex! Thank you very much! I'll get one... a couple... a bunch (gotta do something with that Begemot sheet)! :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janman Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 The windshield seems much better than the Italeri offering and I do like the surface detailing, which appears pretty accurate too. Probably some weaker, softer details are present too, as Berkut pointed out. The pit is pure BS. As far as I remember, even the old Airfix had *much* more accurate IP etc. Okay, how many of us use PE or resin pits on a regular basis? Surprisingly many, I guess. I know I do, although I do appreciate (and would prefer) well executed styrene cockpits. Shame about the cockpit outer wall thing. Didn't the Revell 1/32 have the same issue? Would I wait for the Zvezda kit? Yes I would. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mizar Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Zvezda times,all I need is a freaking 9-12 with IFR (and their first will be a 9-13) then probably I will go after something else for the Mig-33 Fulcrum SS Edited August 24, 2015 by Mizar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madcop Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Looking at all these pictures and having a look at Zlinek plans I'll definitely wait for Zvezda's release. Looks to me that the front of the AC is a little bit cartoonish and I have a serious doubt about the engines fairings and airbrake. But I may be wrong , future will tell. Madcop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neffan01 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Hi, is-it possible to have more pics of this Model finished ? Thanx ;-) As you wish..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkmouth Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Well, I got the kit and I do like it but it does need help in refining. The cockpit sidewalls are bare, devoid of any detailing. Fortunately for me, I have a complete assortment of PART & ACE PE detail sets to gild this Lily: That gun opening and vent are poor (above) and the cockpit side panels bare (below compared to Italeri's cockpit tub): Regards. Edited October 25, 2015 by sharkmouth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Other than the panellines this honestly looks way too toylike. Dont see any reason to get it over the Zvezda kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janman Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Yeah, in no way this kit manages to impress me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
digit Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Other than the panellines this honestly looks way too toylike. Dont see any reason to get it over the Zvezda kit. The upcoming Zvezda kit, you mean. I think the Trumpeter offering does have a slight edge over this: :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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