Sebastian Haff Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 So I just recently saw a built Su-22 and it may be just what I need to get out of my current rut. The KP/Eduard kits are out there if you're ready to drop some serious coinage, and the Smer kits are much more readily available and cheaper. Of course I know what this means...you get what you pay for...but is the Smer really that much worse? And while we're on the subject, is there anyone willing to part with sn extra KP kit you have in the stash? I will buy or trade, and I have many OOP kits, detail sets, decals etc. so try me. Thanks and happy modeling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floggerman Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 First you should decide, what scale: OEZ/KP/Eduard is 1/48, SMER is 1/72 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 SMER is 1/72 Not anymore: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10326154 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floggerman Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Not anymore: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10326154 ahh, thx for the info, didn't know. New mold really? EDIT: just saw that SMER will come with Su-7 and Su-25K as well. Smells like the known, or? Edited August 13, 2015 by Floggerman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pookie Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I think all the current 1/48 Su-22/17 are the same molds in different boxes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floggerman Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I think all the current 1/48 Su-22/17 are the same molds in different boxes. I think so Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I think all the current 1/48 Su-22/17 are the same molds in different boxes. Yes and a replacement would be welcome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Smer rebox all of the 1/48 russian/soviet jets formely done by Kopro/KP (and OEZ for the Su-7 and Su-25) they heve not only use the same tooling... but also the same boxarts... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastian Haff Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 Thanks everyone. Odd that the KP kits command such higher prices than Smer being from the same mold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastian Haff Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 First you should decide, what scale: OEZ/KP/Eduard is 1/48, SMER is 1/72 Should've clarified that in my subject title đ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 How about a newly tooded Su-22 series. AMK, GWH, are you reading this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 How about a newly tooded Su-22 series. AMK, GWH, are you reading this? Please Jesus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastian Haff Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 How about a newly tooded Su-22 series. AMK, GWH, are you reading this? I hope so. That would be awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Leader Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Trumpeter was working on one as I recall... I think prototype pics made the rounds a few years back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastian Haff Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 Trumpeter was working on one as I recall... I think prototype pics made the rounds a few years back I think I remember that as well. I should probably just wait. I've been burned like that before. Working on a bear of a kit, rescribing panel lines etc, and a brand new high tech kit of the same subject comes out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jugjunkie Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) That could be a long wait yet Sabastian, if you can grab a Kopro/KP/Smer kit then grab it. They are very good even with age. Panel lines are recessed albeit a bit soft and shallow but easily fixed. I am busy with the Su25K and with only a Quickboost seat extra, it's building into a great model. Edited August 17, 2015 by jugjunkie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ijozic Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Trumpeter was working on one as I recall... I think prototype pics made the rounds a few years back Wasn't that in 1/32 scale? And posted by 'Song' which is no longer with the company IIRC? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Wasn't that in 1/32 scale? And posted by 'Song' which is no longer with the company IIRC? that's also what i remember from their Su-22UM3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pollie Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I am by no means a rivet counter, but the old KP Su-22 is horrible. I've seen quite a few Fitters in real life and that kit just doesn't look like one. Had one and sold it. Paitently awaiting a kit that looks like a Fitter. There will be one eventually and until then, have loads of stuff to build.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I am by no means a rivet counter, but the old KP Su-22 is horrible. I've seen quite a few Fitters in real life and that kit just doesn't look like one. Had one and sold it. Paitently awaiting a kit that looks like a Fitter. There will be one eventually and until then, have loads of stuff to build.... I did the same and I want the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stalal Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Kopro kit, which is the same as the one SMER going to release, doesnt look bad when built well and with this kind of perseverance. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234984877-su-22m4-eduard-kopro-148/?hl=arkady72 You will see a lot of Kopro kits built to perfection, if you search modeling forum,not just this one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Uncool Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Uh-huh... Me agrees with whut my mate stalal has just typed above. Yeh, me does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Uh-huh... Me agrees with whut my mate stalal has just typed above. Yeh, me does. Me disagrees. There are many great builds made by very talented builders but the kit itself has shape problems. KP messed up the front fuselage and canopy. There's no aftermarket fix in 1/48 probably because it would be too expensive to produce and painful to use. The only existing aftermarket improvement is the 1/72 Pavla vacu canopy for the Bilek/Italeri kit. Real Fitter vs Armin's Knes build Edited August 23, 2015 by Laurent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Uncool Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 KP messed up the front fuselage and canopy. There's no aftermarket fix in 1/48 probably because it would be too expensive to produce and painful to use. Real Fitter vs Armin's Knes build Monsieur Stern! Crikey! :blink: Point taken... Didn't know 'bout that. Incidentally, could ya please elaborate on why an aftermarket fix for the 1/48 KP forward fuselage/canopy would be too painful to use...? Cheers, mon ami. UncÂČ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 could ya please elaborate on why an aftermarket fix for the 1/48 KP forward fuselage/canopy would be too painful to use...? Well it's just that I believe that a growing number of modelers are reluctant to saw their kits to pieces. The real problem would be the cost I believe. New canopy and windscreen would probably imply a need forward fuselage but then a new cockpit, intake center body and FLG bay would be necessary too. Situation would be similar to Komplekt Zip Su-24 correction/detail set for the Trumpy Su-24. Best option would be a new Su-17/22 kit I believe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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