kslmn Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I begin reaching this aircraft réference and the only great website I did found is the flankers's http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/yak-130.htm Can't find many walkaround picture in fact, as the cockpit etc, any help? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I need to update that website with some new photos..... The prototype is now at Monino....... Unfortunately, the Amodel kit is one of the first prototypes - the production machine is very different..... I wish someone would produce a new kit of the definitive version that is now in service with the RusAF. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kslmn Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 Thank you Ken for your reply, I'd like to build the first prototype first and will build the recent version while possible. A new kit is very welcome but the 72 scale isn't really my stuff, a 1/48 yak-130 should be cool. Sanding and prepare the engraving for some missing panels, not really easy fit but it's fine and I'd like to make the scratch cockpit if I can find good references for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 That would make a nice subject in 1:48 scale. Anyone interested in doing it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kslmn Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 I agree, maybe AMK or Great Wall? this aircraft is really awsome. PLEASE make us a 1/48 Alenia Aermacchi T-346A Master or Yak-130 for x'mas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I wouldn't hold my breath for AMK or GWH. Both have a lot of far more historically significant aircraft on their plates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I wouldn't hold my breath for AMK or GWH. Both have a lot of far more historically significant aircraft on their plates. Sounds good to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mfezi Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I wouldn't hold my breath for AMK or GWH. Both have a lot of far more historically significant aircraft on their plates. Although I take your word for AMK or GWH's plans, I must say I do wonder what is considered "historically significant" for a trainer? The Yak-130 is already in service with four air forces, and I am sure more sales are forthcoming as I have only heard positive reports on the aircraft. So, there are already a pretty wide variety of decal and colour scheme options to choose from. Also, it can carry a lot of weapons, so you have quite a number of interesting loadout options also. If a nice modern kit comes out on this aircraft, I would definitely be in the market for at least a couple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I'm not sure you could get an Alenia Aermacchi T-346A Master or Yakovlev Yak-130 out of the same moulds. Since the parting of the ways between the two companies, the respective airframes have gone their separate ways and there are now substantial differences. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andzin Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Well ... probably first we get L-15 from Trumpeter/Hobby Boss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mfezi Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I'm not sure you could get an Alenia Aermacchi T-346A Master or Yakovlev Yak-130 out of the same moulds. Since the parting of the ways between the two companies, the respective airframes have gone their separate ways and there are now substantial differences. Ken I think the suggestion was for one or the other. If I had to pick between the two, it would definitely be the Yak-130 all the way - much more interesting loadout options and (for me at least) more interesting colour schemes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kslmn Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 The Alenia Aermacchi T-346A Master and the Yakovlev Yak-130 are two different aircraft with different equipments, and you are so right Flankerman. There's many lack in the modelling market for the training airplanes, AMK release the Fouga Magister, it's not really my favorite airplane but the mold is great and there's so many details compare to the Kinetik model, I bought one just for fun and I'm falling love with that aircraft by now. SO why don't make a T-346A or a Yak-130? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Interesting that the M-346 retains the wing root fences (more like winglets) - they disappeared from the Yak-130 some time ago. If the aerodynamics are more-or-less the same - which one is right?? Fascinating. Ken PS - Ksimn - there is a photo of the front cockpit on my Yak-1340 walkround page - taken at Le Bourget http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/yak-130.htm Edited August 18, 2015 by Flankerman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erik_g Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Interesting that the M-346 retains the wing root fences (more like winglets) - they disappeared from the Yak-130 some time ago. If the aerodynamics are more-or-less the same - which one is right?? I am only guessing, but one think is that the differences in aerodynamics has something to do with the two aircraft having slightly different roles or at least handling requirements. Also, I guess that the small fins on the M-346 might be there to generate a vortex that gives the tailplanes a bit more "bite" at high AoA. The Yak on the other hand have the tailplanes enlarged, giving it more pitch authority across the entire flight regime. But I suppose your guess is as good as mine, but I also find it interesting.. /E Quote Link to post Share on other sites
172flogger Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 There are two different Amodel prototype kits: Yak-130D camouflaged http://www.model-making.eu/products/Yakovlev-Yak-130D-Russian-AF-Modern-Jet-Training-Aircraft.html Wing with dogtooth and two additional weapons sprues Yak-130 white/blue: http://www.model-making.eu/products/Yakovlev-Yak-130-Soviet-Training-Fighthing-Jet.html without weapons but additional sprue with different wing both "dogtoot" 336 and "winglets" 339 planes could be build All main parts with fuselage looks same. Prototype configuration short nose is very different from serial version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 From.... http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/yak_130 The Yak-130 production aircraft is slightly different from the Yak-130D demonstrator, with lower weight, a more rounded nose to accommodate a radar, a shorter fuselage length and a lower wing area. I don't know if the shorter fuselage is due to the revised nose - or the reduction is actually within the fuselage body. The same with the 'lower wing area' - is that because of the deleted winglets? - or is the wing shape revised? It would be an interesting exercise to see if a production Yak-130 could be made from the Amodel kit. Production...... Yak-130D..... Note where the LERX meets the windscreen arch on the production machine - I also think it has a taller canopy - and it has a fairing at the base of the fin. Maybe the intake is cut back as well?? - like I said, there are lots of differences. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kslmn Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 The air intake is more bigger than the demonstrator too. I think the main difference between the Yak 130 and the T-346 is the engine, Klimov DV-2S or Ivtchenko-Progress AI-222 for the russian aircraft and Honeywell TEC F124-GA-200 for Alenia Aermacchi. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Note the difference in the undercarriage - and the jet exhaust. The M-346 doesn't have the anti-FOD intakes/doors - but it does have the root 'winglets'. It also has an intake on the fin L/E..... Ken Edited August 19, 2015 by Flankerman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 The air intake is more bigger than the demonstrator too. I think the main difference between the Yak 130 and the T-346 is the engine, Klimov DV-2S or Ivtchenko-Progress AI-222 for the russian aircraft and Honeywell TEC F124-GA-200 for Alenia Aermacchi. Thanks ... and to have the family comparison complete, You only need to add the Chinese Hongdu L-15/JL-10 - also a development based on the same design - however with even more changes. Deino Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kslmn Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 So right, why nobody is interresting to made a kit of those small aircraft? -Roden? -ICM? -AMK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
172flogger Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Thanks ... and to have the family comparison complete, You only need to add the Chinese Hongdu L-15/JL-10 - also a development based on the same design - however with even more changes. Deino L-15 tail looks like a copy of the Taiwan AIDC F-CK-1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
172flogger Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Yak-130 prototype and Yak-130D prototype wings. How much is serial version different? image source: www.mojehobby.pl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 8/19/2015 at 3:20 PM, Flankerman said: Note the difference in the undercarriage - and the jet exhaust. The M-346 doesn't have the anti-FOD intakes/doors - but it does have the root 'winglets'. It also has an intake on the fin L/E..... Ken Now that the Zvezda Yak-130 is out, how difficult is it to convert it to a M-346? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plane bum Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 its not difficult to convert i had built the amodel kit into the m-346 here's a photo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 On 19/03/2018 at 10:05 PM, JackMan said: Now that the Zvezda Yak-130 is out, how difficult is it to convert it to a M-346? Extensive work. Bottom side comparaison... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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