nachjager Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Here is the link: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10343385 Looks like it will have the correct 'sugar scoop' exhaust deflectors. Cool news indeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GMK Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Nice - will be able to build the new British Army version: http://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/united_kingdom_15-50.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Don't expect that what you see as an advertisement is actually the plastic you get. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Don't expect that what you see as an advertisement is actually the plastic you get. Chris M Agreed, they often tend to just pull a random picture off the internet and use that as a "placeholder" until the box art is released. It would be nice to get the sugarscoop and all the other mods but I wouldn't hold your breath. Be even nicer to get a new tool late version in 1/35. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Agreed, they often tend to just pull a random picture off the internet and use that as a "placeholder" until the box art is released. It would be nice to get the sugarscoop and all the other mods but I wouldn't hold your breath. Be even nicer to get a new tool late version in 1/35. Agreed, a newer version would be nice. Making replacement scoops for earlier releases could become possible. I did a search on the model listing and found a May 2015 article by a Korean or Chinese enthusiast who photographed what he reported as a 1/48th AH-64E. It was an E in Taiwan markings with no scoops. Who knows what's going on. http://a5447.pixnet.net/blog/post/42202400 Chris M Edited August 28, 2015 by Chief Snake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salvador001 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Wish someone could release a new tool 1/35 Apache, specially an A model. Rod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lancer512 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Interesting. Is there any noticable difference between a Delta and an Echo AH-64? Edited August 28, 2015 by Lancer512 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Interesting. Is there any noticable difference between a Delta and an Echo AH-64? Yes, the ones you can't see are changes to radar. The ones you can see are different external sensors and relocated sensors.The front sensor is obviously different. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strikeeagle801 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) Not all AH-64E's are being outfitted with the sugar scoops, especially from the factory. The 229th out of JBLM did not have them when they first came to the unit...They received them as a field mod while in A-stan. They got shark's mouths there too. The Echo's have up-rated engines and transmissions, as well as an updated/redesigned rotor system. The cockpit is different, as there is an additional screen and joystick for controlling UAV's...One of the main avionics updates to the Echo. Aaron ps. I could REALLY use a set of 1/48 sugar scoops (hint, hint Chris) for a memorial build I am doing for a friend of mine that was KIA in Afghanistan back in 2013. Pre-deployment http://www.airfighters.com/photo/125055/M/USA-Army/Boeing-AH-64E-Apache-Guardian/11-09022/ Post-deployment http://www.airfighters.com/photo/162906/M/USA-Army/Boeing-AH-64E-Apache-Guardian/12-09026/ http://www.airfighters.com/photo/162831/M/USA-Army/Boeing-AH-64E-Apache-Guardian/12-09026/ Edited August 30, 2015 by strikeeagle801 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I have invested in someone working on designing the scoops in CAD for 3D printing. Progress is slow. Getting some from a plastic kit could really help advance this. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) http://www.airfighters.com/photo/162831/M/USA-Army/Boeing-AH-64E-Apache-Guardian/12-09026/ Never noticed that fairing on the bottom of the sugar scoop housing. Has it always been present, maybe just hidden in the shadows? Are their any pics out there that show the sugar scoop in detail? Nice pictures by the way. Edited August 30, 2015 by 11bee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Never noticed that fairing on the bottom of the sugar scoop housing. Has it always been present, maybe just hidden in the shadows? Are their any pics out there that show the sugar scoop in detail? Nice pics by the way. I have some photos of an earlier date that show some sort fairing or inlet in the same place but it's half that size. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strikeeagle801 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Never noticed that fairing on the bottom of the sugar scoop housing. Has it always been present, maybe just hidden in the shadows? Are their any pics out there that show the sugar scoop in detail? Nice pictures by the way. Must be an upgrade of some sort...It is not present at all in my photo from 2013. Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lancer512 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) I took this picture of AH-64D 02-05316 in the late afternoon of 02-Oct-2013 in Germany. That scoop-like fairing on the bottom of the sugar scoop looks quite new, as compared to the overall heavily worn appearance of the airframe. On my ealier AH-64E pictures, this fairing is more rectangular from the side and only about half as long. But it also begins at the black stripe. Edited August 30, 2015 by Lancer512 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Found this pic for you guys. Don't know if will help or not! Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Airframe Guy Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 The scoop on the bottom helps cooling by directing "Ram Air" up into the exhaust scoop. By the way, 16th CAB got their aircraft up graded in the fall of 2013 at JBLM before they deployed (along with a few other post production mods). I was part of the mod team that did the install. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaz Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Posted on Hasegawa's twitter account, the diagram of the new parts shown during the September hobby show. Edited October 14, 2015 by kaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lancer512 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Excellent! I've got it already preordered for a while. Any news on the release date? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd S. Werner, Jr. Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Posted on Hasegawa's twitter account, the diagram of the new parts shown during the September hobby show. Guess we won't have to CAD those exhausts. Damn at least it's cool. Now I need to buy another kit. I wonder if they are selling the spruce separately. Floyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strikeeagle801 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I wonder if they are selling the spruce separately. Floyd That's what I'm wondering/hoping for as well. My buddy's helo had the exhausts installed when he was there in 2013, so I need to get them one way or another to make it right. Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I have someone working the CAD angle right now. Very difficult. If these show up in a kit I know where I'll get the basis for a master. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 That's a cool looking helo. I might just buy one of these. Now if only it was done in 1/35 scale, and not a rebox of the crappy Kangnam kit from a few years ago! Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaz Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Hasegawa updated the product information page of the Guardian including box art and close-ups of the new-tool parts. According to the description, the kit contains the necessary parts in plastic to recreate either an AH-64E or AH-64D Block II Guardian such as new main rotor blades, antennae, and the exhaust deflectors, while PE parts are included for the exhaust fins and intake covers. The kit decals are for three airframes. Regular price is 4600JPY and it's scheduled for release on the 27th this January. See the rest of the photos here: http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/product/07414/ Edited January 5, 2016 by kaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salvador001 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I will get this when it comes out, but would prefer a new tool AH-64 in 1/35. Rod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red14 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 sweet, I'm not a heli guy but I've always loved the Apache and have been looking to snag one.. Can these Hase's be built without that silly looking dome on top? (I want that little cap just like on the boxart of this new Guardian boxing).. and does the AH-64D Block II Guardian have the straight exhausts or sugar scoops? cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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