Tgoetz Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) The kids are both in school and I am ready to get back on the workbench. Maybe I can finish a model sometime in the next year. I'm not going to go into all the issues with this kit. I think that has been covered already. I will point out for those that have not seen both versions Trumpeter has released, I was surprised with all the differences between the two kits. Usually when a company releases a new "version" its got a few new parts, but this has a new cockpit/cabin floor, new front and center console, all new seats, and even the fuselage half's are different. I will admit that with all the obvious research and work they put into both kits, the obvious mistakes like the number of fenstron blades, no SATCOM antenna and wheels were not caught. And I will never understand their attempt at replicating the rotor droop. So my plan is to do a HITRON aircraft, specifically aircraft 6518 when it was a "Charlie" model. I have a few pictures of it having a crosshair logo on the vertical stabilizer. So, I'll need to have some decals made up eventually. I'm guessing some aftermarket photo etch will be released before too long. It will be wheels down on the ground, pilot and side doors open and weapons displayed. If I can rig the radar dome and engine cover to display open and closed I might dress both areas up a little. I'll do my best to keep everyone updated on my progress and let you know of any fit issues I find. I think I've googled every walkaround available for this aircraft, but if anyone has good pictures of the cockpit/cabin it would be appreciated. Edited August 29, 2015 by Tgoetz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Sounds great. I have plans too do the same, so I will be watching with interest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tgoetz Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 Right off I caught a small issue. Easily fixed, unless you follow the instructions and glue parts R1 and R2 together first. All my references show that area to be flush with the rest of the side console. You can see the gap left in the middle by gluing the parts separately and flush with the side of the middle console. The gap should not be visible after installing the front console. I worked a little on the seats. The frames on the pilots seats are a little different than the flight mechanic seat. The kit seats are the same for all three and represent the rear flight mechanic seat. I'm going to try scratch the front frames. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
as365n3 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) I will follow this thread. If you have problems just ask because i can give you the real measures. Go ahead bro! Edited August 28, 2015 by as365n3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpiritZeroThree Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Right off I caught a small issue. Easily fixed, unless you follow the instructions and glue parts R1 and R2 together first. All my references show that area to be flush with the rest of the side console. You can see the gap left in the middle by gluing the parts separately and flush with the side of the middle console. The gap should not be visible after installing the front console. I worked a little on the seats. The frames on the pilots seats are a little different than the flight mechanic seat. The kit seats are the same for all three and represent the rear flight mechanic seat. I'm going to try scratch the front frames. Good catch on the forward circuit breaker panels. The center console aft of the CDUs is offset to the left to make room for the pilots collective. Here are a couple pics I just shot in the hangar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tgoetz Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) "The center console aft of the CDUs is offset to the left to make room for the pilots collective." I didn't see that. Thanks. The CDU's are also set parallel to the floor, when it looks like they should be at the same angle as the rest of the console. Not a fun correction. Great pictures by the way! Todd Edited August 29, 2015 by Tgoetz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tgoetz Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 As promised on another topic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpiritZeroThree Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 No prob on the pics, I'll be doing a full walk around once my computer and camera show up in a couple weeks (just transferred). Remember, this is an HH kit not an MH kit, lack of SATCOM, and the 11 bladed tail are correct, those were MH mods (and even early MH birds had 11 bladed tails). Lack of copilots lower window on the door and mising OADS are bigger issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Youngtiger1 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Nice start, looks like you are the first kid on the block with this build Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tgoetz Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Regarding the missing co-pilots window. The N2 version kit has the correct door/window. Again, looking at the details Trumpeter did get right and the fact that they already had this part molded from the first kit release, one would assume it was an oversight. Is there an AS-365 version (future release) that does not have that window open? The big question...would they provide you with the correct parts if you inquired? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
as365n3 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 But in every case it is a big missing because all copilot doors we find in the standard N3s and HH-65s have the lower window. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
torchf4 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 But in every case it is a big missing because all copilot doors we find in the standard N3s and HH-65s have the lower window. Yeah and to rub it in the box art shows the window as well! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyWan Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Finally! Someone starts to build this... with photos. Looking forward to your progress. I've got one of these planned as well. How do you plan to fix the wheels? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tgoetz Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 Thanks, I hope to do it justice. I haven't looked too close at the wheels. As I understand they are the same outside diameter, but the front wheels have a smaller rim diameter? Hoping I have a wheel in the leftover box that will be a close match. I think a few the hardest corrections are going to be the center console and the bottom window on the co-pilot side crew door. Not the co-pilot door, but the cabin door. I noticed it is shaped wrong yesterday. I started on the center console and will post an update in the next few days. Thanks everyone for the interest in this build. Todd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyWan Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Cool! Can't wait to see more. Where are you sourcing weapons from? -Anthony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
as365n3 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) You must also correct the shape of the right side windows :)/> http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=285955&st=60 Edited September 1, 2015 by as365n3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tgoetz Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) You must also correct the shape of the right side windows :)/>/>/> http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=285955&st=60 You are not helping! :(/> Hope I haven't bitten off more than I can handle. Edited September 1, 2015 by Tgoetz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpiritZeroThree Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 You are not helping! :(/>/> Hope I haven't bitten off more than I can handle. When 6518 was at HITRON it still had a jettisonable sliding door, window shape is correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
as365n3 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) IMHO they are not correct. They are aligned on the bottom side and the rear one is wider.No?! Edited September 1, 2015 by as365n3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
torchf4 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Following your build with great interest! Will you be arming the bird? And if so what's the aftermarket set to use? I presume it will be from Live Resin? Cheers Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Tgoetz Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 IMHO they are not correct. They are aligned on the bottom side and the rear one is wider.No?! I agree the wheels look a little off. What are you referring to about the alignment on the bottom? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
as365n3 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) I use to draw imaginary lines in order to have a "perfect" idea of the shape of the model! Edited September 3, 2015 by as365n3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
as365n3 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) The rear sliding door (n3 and civil version) should be 2,65cm long and the other one (that slides in the mh65) should be 2,38 cm. Edited September 5, 2015 by as365n3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salvador001 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Oh man you have really dissapointed me with all this faults the kit has. I then will consider the 1/48 Kitty Hawk Dolphin. Rod. Edited September 4, 2015 by salvador001 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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