Banana11000 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Looks great! And yeah one aileron should be up while the other is down. Or just in a neutral position. Loving the build so far! Cheers, Colin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Loving the progress! Thanx Aurora Mark :D Janne, Excellent progress. What you're referring to are called Ailerons. They help the aircraft bank into the orientation of the turn by raising one and lowering the other one. If you want to turn right, you move the stick in that direction, it lowers the right Aileron and raises the left one, causing the aircraft to bank in that direction. With the rudder you change the forward orientation of the aircraft towards the right. As for the prop, you just taught this old dog a new trick. I've always primed the prop tips in Neutral gray, then just applied flat yellow. Never thought of using a dusting of pink. The only thing to be aware of is that the yellow faded real fast, especially in the south Asian Theater. As for the prop, it going to have a spinner, so no hub detail is really needed. Just a little chipping if you want to on both edges will do just fine. I really like the radiator PE. It's a real nice added detail then just a black or nothing behind it. Talk about ejection pin marks. Those are some really super sized one. Nice job on correcting them. I'm looking forward to seeing your scratch rib work. Joel Thanx Joel :D Ailerons I knew....the spart I didn't know the name of was the part with PE, it goes in the middle of the main wing. Looks great! And yeah one aileron should be up while the other is down. Or just in a neutral position. Loving the build so far! Cheers, Colin Thanx Colin :D Trumpeter made the ailerons to only fit in the down position...felt weird. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Thanx Aurora Mark :D/> Thanx Joel :D/> Ailerons I knew....the spart I didn't know the name of was the part with PE, it goes in the middle of the main wing. Thanx Colin :D/> Trumpeter made the ailerons to only fit in the down position...felt weird. Janne, From the few pictures of it, it seams to face down once attached to the wing. Could it be an extension of the inner ribbed section of the wing? Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Janne, From the few pictures of it, it seams to face down once attached to the wing. Could it be an extension of the inner ribbed section of the wing? Joel Yup, that's it...it's part of the wing where the landing flaps folds into. Just thought it had a name ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikkod Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yes. Those flaps before modding Keep it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yes. Those flaps before modding :bandhead2:/> Keep it up. Thanx mikkod :D Yeah they really need a work over! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 Mother-in-law induced build pause :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Here is a long overdue update :D It´s been fiddley business... I sanded the insides of the landing flaps smooth... Then I cut up 4 pieces of 0.010*0.020" strips and made 20 something pices of what will be ribs from 0.010" plasticard. Glued on the strips like so... Then I made a simple jig from a toothpick for the ribs to be about similarily cut... Held the rib like this.... and marked a line like so....and the same on the rest. then cut a triangular shape with the apex on the mark. I used my razor saw and cut up the strips I had glued in the flaps... And inserted the ribs into the grooves....and it looks much better :D Here are both done... Cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banana11000 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Lookin' good! Love the scratch work on the flaps. Cheers, Colin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Lookin' good! Love the scratch work on the flaps. Cheers, Colin Thanx Colin :D Look a bit neater now, don't they :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
polo1112 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Yes they do; Great work!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Beary Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Janne, Excellent progress. What you're referring to are called Ailerons. They help the aircraft bank into the orientation of the turn by raising one wing and lowering the other one. If you want to turn right, you move the stick in that direction, it lowers the right Aileron and raises the left one, causing the aircraft to bank in that direction. With the rudder you change the forward orientation of the aircraft towards the right. As for the prop, you just taught this old dog a new trick. I've always primed the prop tips in Neutral gray, then just applied flat yellow. Never thought of using a dusting of pink. The only thing to be aware of is that the yellow faded real fast, especially in the south Asian Theater. As for the prop, it going to have a spinner, so no hub detail is really needed. Just a little chipping if you want to on both edges will do just fine. I really like the radiator PE. It's a real nice added detail then just a black or nothing behind it. Talk about ejection pin marks. Those are some really super sized one. Nice job on correcting them. I'm looking forward to seeing your scratch rib work. Joel Actually the part about the ailerons is reversed. If you want to turn to the right you move the stick to the right and the RIGHT aileron goes UP (not down) thus causing the wing to lower into the turn. The LEFT aileron will of course go DOWN. Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Janne, Don't know how I missed how you made those flaps. I've done similar detailing on a SBD-3 Dauntless, but I did it backwards from your technique. I made the ribs, then struggled with the stringers cut from individual pieces. Your method not only looks 100% better, but I'm will to bet it took way less time. Nothing like learning from the "Master". Keep those techniques coming. I copy those that I have value to me, and using OneNote, I have an easy to find reference library to pull up any techniques I want to use with pictures. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Yes they do; Great work!! Thanx polo1112 :D Actually the part about the ailerons is reversed. If you want to turn to the right you move the stick to the right and the RIGHT aileron goes UP (not down) thus causing the wing to lower into the turn. The LEFT aileron will of course go DOWN. Bob Thanx on the input , Bob :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Janne, Don't know how I missed how you made those flaps. I've done similar detailing on a SBD-3 Dauntless, but I did it backwards from your technique. I made the ribs, then struggled with the stringers cut from individual pieces. Your method not only looks 100% better, but I'm will to bet it took way less time. Nothing like learning from the "Master". Keep those techniques coming. I copy those that I have value to me, and using OneNote, I have an easy to find reference library to pull up any techniques I want to use with pictures. Joel Thanx Joel :D I had been thinking about how to go about things for a while....at first I was considering the way you described. I was thinking in the lines of a jig to avoid having to measure each cut on each ribs on 24 pieces, that would take way too much time and effort :P Me being lazy is a great driving force to find simple and quick sollutions to problems...so it came to me that the easiest and quickest way was to cut grooves with my razor saw, I took a calipher to it and found that the saw blade was the right width for the 0.010" plasticard......and right now it dawned on me that I could just have glued the ribs and use my cutter to cut the ribs to shape as they where glued tomthe flaps and it would have gone even quicker :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) <div> Thanx Joel :D/>/>/> I had been thinking about how to go about things for a while....at first I was considering the way you described. I was thinking in the lines of a jig to avoid having to measure each cut on each ribs on 24 pieces, that would take way too much time and effort :P/>/>/> Me being lazy is a great driving force to find simple and quick sollutions to problems...so it came to me that the easiest and quickest way was to cut grooves with my razor saw, I took a calipher to it and found that the saw blade was the right width for the 0.010" plasticard......and right now it dawned on me that I could just have glued the ribs and use my cutter to cut the ribs to shape as they where glued tomthe flaps and it would have gone even quicker :/ Janne, In other words, I need to work on my natural laziness skills more Joel Edited September 30, 2015 by Joel_W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K5054NZ Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Lovely work Janne! But surely you starting this very comprehensive build is why Airfix chose to announce their new 1/48 P-40B? If so, thank you for your influence! :thumbsup:/> Best of luck with the build, I look forward to your next photo update. Edited September 30, 2015 by K5054NZ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 <div> Janne, In other words, I need to work on my natural laziness skills more :thumbsup:/> :yahoo:/> Joel Exactly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 Lovely work Janne! But surely you starting this very comprehensive build is why Airfix chose to announce their new 1/48 P-40B? If so, thank you for your influence! :thumbsup:/>/> Best of luck with the build, I look forward to your next photo update. Thanx zac :D Story of my life.... :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K5054NZ Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Thank you for your noble sacrifice, so that others may have joy. :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 Thank you for your noble sacrifice, so that others may have joy. :P/> LoL, I started counting and realized I had sacrificed me quite a few times now.... First a F-15I Ra'am konverted from parts of 2 kits and Isracast conversion set....shortly there after Academy and Hasegawa released the darn thing. Then I did a F-16I Sufa again useda Isracast conversion and loads of scratching.....and again just weeks after it was done Kinetic and Hasegawa released their Sufas. I spent a small fortune on building a Esci Viggen, I toiled for more than two years on making it correctish....and a year and a half later the Tarangus Viggen arrived.... And now this...where will it end? Shall I do requests? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aurora Mark Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Your scratch building is absolutely brilliant there! More! MORE! MORE!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Janne, When you're ready for requests, I'm sure that your minions can supply you with enough ideas to last for years on end. :salute:/> Personally, I've enjoyed and learned quite a lot, especially your weathering philosophy for all your builds that I've followed. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Your scratch building is absolutely brilliant there! More! MORE! MORE!!! LOL, Thanx Aurora mark :D I'll try to live up to that ;P Janne, When you're ready for requests, I'm sure that your minions can supply you with enough ideas to last for years on end. :salute:/>/> Personally, I've enjoyed and learned quite a lot, especially your weathering philosophy for all your builds that I've followed. Joel You're probably right :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 Got some work done again :D Some painting actually... Shot some interior green on the insides of the landing flaps and the cockpit....it´s a move forward at least :P The Aires pit so far Landing bay doors Got a wee bit done besides rudimentary painting :) I fixed the ailerons...slightly neutral is the look I went with. Then I begun on the radiator shutters...thought I´d detail them up a bit...and I want them open. So I started with thinning them a bit with The Dremel. Numbered the shutters so I wouldn´t misplace them... Put in three shims in preparation for extending the bottom fuselage into the radiator. Glued on a bit of plasticard, I will putty that up later as to make it more conformal to the soft bulgeing in into the radiator. A little dry fitting so I know I haven´t done the extension too far into the radiator... And a dry fit of the radiator shutters, I will cut them up and and position them in the open position and add rods and supports. There, not much but every single step forwards counts :D Cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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